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Never said I hate Lansing. I would just love to see someone else get an opportunity.
meh... ncaa div i coaching gigs aren't a "jobs program" to provide "opportunities..."

and the LAST thing Indiana State needs is for their reputation to be trashed with the lack of character that Dick Pitino would bring... still shocking to see Iona lower themselves to that level
 

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See Tates Locke, ex Indiana State men's basketball coach then talk to me about ISU coaches character. Underhanded deals took on an art form up there with their futile desire to become an ACC Championship basketball school. Coach Tates Locke was the man in charge when the boosters and administrators made the call to "do whatever it takes". Tates Locke cheated at Clemson then hired by Indiana State.
 
See Tates Locke, ex Indiana State men's basketball coach then talk to me about ISU coaches character. Underhanded deals took on an art form up there with their futile desire to become an ACC Championship basketball school. Coach Tates Locke was the man in charge when the boosters and administrators made the call to "do whatever it takes". Tates Locke cheated at Clemson then hired by Indiana State.

You skipped over a 4 job / 12-year period of Locke's coaching tenure but...

To my recollection, Locke never "schtupped" a "bat-sh*t crazy fan" on a table in back room of the Saratoga.

To my recollection, Locke never convinced a staff member to MARRY that same "bat-sh*t crazy fan"

To my recollection, Locke never offered to pay for abortions.

To my recollection, Locke never ran a whore house out of Mills, Blumberg or ANY of the Sorority "stairwells" at Lincoln Quad.
 
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You skipped over a 3-4 job / 14-year period of Locke's coaching tenure but...

To my recollection, Locke never "schtupped" a "fan" on a table in back room of the Saratoga.

To my recollection, Locke never convinced a staff member to MARRY the bat-sh*t crazy fan

To my recollection, Locke never offered to pay for abortions.

To my recollection, Locke never ran a whore house out of Mills, Blumberg or ANY of the Sorority "stairwells" at Lincoln Quad.
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You are badmouthing a coach who put ISU on the map but had to step aside due to health problems?

I'd argue that Coach Glenn Curtis put ISU on the map. The ONLY reason Bob King coached as LONG as he did at ISU was because he refused to step down (per the plan) once he realized how good Larry Bird was; Stan Evans (the top assistant) resigned; move foward months, King suffered the heart attack, followed by the stroke. Even THEN the plan was for him to recuperate, Hodges was basically the interim coach all of the 1978-79 season. Once it became apparent, that King would have to retire, he did in 1980.

Had King followed on his stated plan, Hodges would have been an assistant, King would have been the AD when he suffered that heart attack.

Bad-mouthing? If you want to take position, so be it. I'd put the blame on Pres. Dick Landini and the other SR Administrators; they (unwittingly) set Hodges up for failure.
 
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the game is about more than recruiting... I'd prefer any future new head coach to have some head coaching experience, some experience running a program

some coaches are great at recruiting, some at Xs and Os, etc

I don't want a recruiter running a program, I want a Head Coach running a program
I get it, but usually the new hire is polar opposite from the current guy. Otherwise why would you make a move?
 
I get it, but usually the new hire is polar opposite from the current guy. Otherwise why would you make a move?
Honestly, the college landscape has also become more about recruiting. The teams with the best players win, not the best systemsbecause damn near everyone runs a similar offense. Look at the erosion of the genius Coach K as Duke hasn't landed the top players consistently anymore. His system worked because he had the best of the best.

Damn near every NBA offensive anymore centers around the pick and roll/ball screen action and then when those fail, dribble drive hero ball. The premium has become on top tier big athletes that can 3&D and stretch 4s that can create spacing for guards to be multi-dimensional.

As long as the next coach runs some variation but is a PLUS recruiter and can hire PLUS recruiting assistants, we have a shot. The Valley has transitioned during Lansing's time from being able to get away with having a solo star with a couple nice pieces to teams having multiple scorers that can shoot at every spot in the lineup.
 
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Honestly, the college landscape has also become more about recruiting. The teams with the best players win, not the best systems anymore because damn near everyone runs a similar offense anymore. Look at the erosion of the genius Coach K as Duke hasn't landed the top players consistently anymore. His system worked because he had the best of the best.

Damn near every NBA offensive anymore centers around the pick and roll/ball screen action and then when those fail, dribble drive hero ball. The premium has become on top tier big athletes that can 3&D and stretch 4s that can create spacing for guards to be multi-dimensional.

As long as the next coach runs some variation but is a PLUS recruiter and can hire PLUS recruiting assistants, we have a shot. The Valley has transitioned during Lansing's time from being able to get away with having a solo star with a couple nice pieces to teams having multiple scorers that can shoot at every spot in the lineup.
I am very fascinated to see the new coach’s salary. It will signal where they think the expectations should be for this program.
 
Jason.......as you might suspect.....my question is.....where exactly is the money going to come from?
That question is not directed to you specifically....but more a general question.
 

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Jason.......as you might suspect.....my question is.....where exactly is the money going to come from?
That question is not directed to you specifically....but more a general question.
That’s what is so interesting! They are letting a legitimately fine coach, on a below average deal, walk at the end of the year.

The hire will tell us a lot about the reasoning. If they spend big, it’ll mean they want to raise the bar on expectations of the program.

But if they spend around the same amount, or God forbid, less....
 
I get it, but usually the new hire is polar opposite from the current guy. Otherwise why would you make a move?
I've seen the "polar opposite" scenario in the pro ranks -- especially with a franchise that is wholly committed to their players under contract

In college, it's become "the AD's guy" -- regardless of the current coach success rate, i.e. see Wisc-Green Bay

I haven't been screaming for a change at ISU; what I definitely don't want to see is (another) revolving door, see ISU MBB History, 1982 - 1997.
 
Replacement list, these guys would take the job with current salary. These guys deserve an opportunity.

Cornell Mann (assistant Mizz)
Doug Novsek (former ISU assistant)
Bret Campbell (Indiana native)
Stan Gouard (D2 coach with Indiana ties)
 
Replacement list, these guys would take the job with current salary. These guys deserve an opportunity.

Cornell Mann (assistant Mizz)
Doug Novsek (former ISU assistant)
Bret Campbell (Indiana native)
Stan Gouard (D2 coach with Indiana ties)

Bret Campbell - old (60) will be 61 during 2021-22 season; a career losing Div I head coach (125-168 .427) at UT Martin AND some questionable $$ decisions

https://www.nwtntoday.com/2009/06/10/utm-stands-ground-over-forced-resignation-of-bret-campbell/

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-bkc-tenn-martin-coach-resigns-060509-2009jun05-story.html

Doug Novsek - career assistant, has he never pursued a HC job or never landed one? I don't recall his first stint at ISU being one of tremendous success

Gouard... I don't see him leaving ISU_E, he just left U.Indianapolis for his alma mater

Mann... no clue, what's the reason for an opportunity?
 
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