Couldn't agree more. They are going to upgrade their football stadium and keep Petrino and Ford as long as they can and compete for FCS playoff and NCAA Basketball NCAA or NIT births in the coming years. They've got almost 20,000 students. They are fine where they are.
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FBS realignment talk is back in season...
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niklz62
The Menser Level
i dont think this is the time to make a move like that. you could step up then without doing anything take a step back when the cards get reshuffled in the next 4-10 years
They'll be more schools stepping back in the next 5-15 years; the MAC, the smaller, "poor" schools outside of the "power 5" conferences
Agreed, Hoop. But I’m also not sure that the MAC’s and Sun Belts of the world would even view Missouri State as a prime acquisition. Those conferences can get better options.
But Bottom line, Missouri State has a home in the MVC and they know it.
Which is why it boggles my mind with schools adding football or moving up from FCS to FBS right now. Talk about tone deaf... look at the what inflation is doing right now so that means everything just got more expensive across the board. I'm sure it added another several hundred thousand to our budget so having to then adhere to additional scholarships, selling a minimum allotment of tickets, additional logistics, etc. No way.
niklz62
The Menser Level
Not disagreeing with anything but the ticket sales. I don’t think anyone is gonna get in trouble over that
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Trouble? No, but only because they pay the difference so the NCAA doesn't come knocking.
There was an article in the Detroit Free Press outlining this for Eastern Michigan several years ago. FBS requires you sell 15k tickets per home game. If you don't hit it, you cut a check for the difference. So what they were doing was selling heavily discounted tickets in bulk to all of their vendors. Talking like 50k tickets being sold to Pepsi for like $2-3.
we're in total agreement -- adding football at the D3 or even the Pioneer level is a vast difference than moving from FCS to FBS
admittedly, if you're like a St Thomas (MN) school w/ a very healthy endowment, the jump from D3 to Div 1 and non-scholie football isn't a budget killer but let's see how many sports they shed as they move from non-scholie BUS league to a scholie FLY league
It sounds like it's basically a done deal that Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee will be joining the MAC.
Sources also saying that Liberty, NM State, Jacksonville State, and Sam Houston State are likely joining the CUSA. That will get them to 7 if WKU and MTSU are gone. FBS leagues need 8, but I think they will find one more rather easily.
Good grief. Now Incarnate Word and McNeese State are heading to the WAC, which will leave the Southland Conference at 5 (need 6 for AQ).
The ASUN is also at 5 assuming Jax State leaves. I wouldn't be shocked if Eastern Kentucky ends up following JSU to the CUSA either. I have to say that I always felt that the moves to the ASUN were very shortsighted and mysterious.
The ASUN is also at 5 assuming Jax State leaves. I wouldn't be shocked if Eastern Kentucky ends up following JSU to the CUSA either. I have to say that I always felt that the moves to the ASUN were very shortsighted and mysterious.
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It's official... the 2-time FCS National Champion James Madison Dukes have accepted the SunBelt's invitation for membership; membership will be effective 1 July 2023
They'll be a Sun Belt member in all sports
www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32565005/james-madison-dukes-making-move-fbs-joining-sun-belt-conference
They'll be a Sun Belt member in all sports
www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32565005/james-madison-dukes-making-move-fbs-joining-sun-belt-conference
This is also official now. SHSU is ranked #1 currently in the FCS top 25.
To Keep Track Of All Of The Realignment Madness
www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32465132/college-football-conference-realignment-tracker-remaining-questions-next-steps-latest-shake-up
www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32465132/college-football-conference-realignment-tracker-remaining-questions-next-steps-latest-shake-up
It's not even fun anymore to keep up with all the realignment and which school is going to which conference. Between the AAC, C-USA, and Sun Belt I have no clue who went where. The gap between the P5 and everyone else just keeps getting bigger and bigger and is really starting to take the fun out of college athletics.
Little Rock is joining the OVC.
There's also speculation that Pine Bluff from the SWAC might also join. USI, WIU, and Grand Valley State have also been mentioned as possible candidates.
There's also speculation that Pine Bluff from the SWAC might also join. USI, WIU, and Grand Valley State have also been mentioned as possible candidates.
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niklz62
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I heard from someone at EIU that we got an invite along with WIU. They thought WIU would take it still.
If WIU joins the OVC, then I think ISU should accept an offer as a FB Only member if the OVC would allow that. ISU just doesn't seem to have the money to be regularly competitive in the MVFC. I would rather see us compete against our peers than FBS-lite programs.
I would prefer to see us stay MVC for everything else for now. If they add Arlington then my support for staying in the MVC will likely drop off quite a bit. No offense to Arlington, but all I've heard for a decade is that the two Dakota State schools are too far, but somehow Dallas, Texas is perfectly fine. Adding a school like Arlington really does nothing for ISU.
Big Ten finishing off the Pac 10/12 with the news they are poaching USC and UCLA.