Indiana State Announces Josh Schertz as Next Men's Basketball Coach

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First time poster here. I used to be a Butler season ticket holder and in 2017 watched a D2 LMU team take a very good Butler team down to the wire 86-79 was the final score at Hinkle. Team was fundamentally sound, played great defense, good ball movement. Considering the situation a great hire.
 

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BrokerZ said:
His last D2 All American was Courvoisier McCauley from Manual High School in Indy. Not sure that means Schertz is completely tapped-in to Indiana recruiting, but he’s obviously not completely unfamiliar.
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Perfect example of why "the grass is NOT always greener on the other side of the fence."

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Div II bio:

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Courvoisier McCauley - MEN'S BASKETBALL - DePaul University Athletics

Courvoisier McCauley (23) Guard - Career Transferred to DePaul in May 2020 after playing first two seasons at NCAA Division II Lincoln Memorial (Tenn.). In 6...
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This in itself is reasonable grounds for concern in hiring a Div II coach, regardless of his record...anyone notice DePaul's conference standing?
 

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BrokerZ said:
His last D2 All American was Courvoisier McCauley from Manual High School in Indy. Not sure that means Schertz is completely tapped-in to Indiana recruiting, but he’s obviously not completely unfamiliar.
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Is this what we have to look forward to?

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McCauley spends two years at LMU and leaves for DePaul...

McCauley and Walter (kid from Lafayette) are only Indiana kids on his LMU rosters, going back to 2013-14
 
4Q_iu said:
Is this what we have to look forward to?

www.indystar.com%2Fstory%2Fsports%2Fhigh-school%2F2020%2F04%2F28%2Fdivision-ii-all-american-courvoisier-mccauley-transferring-depaul-basketball%2F3032982001%2F

McCauley spends two years at LMU and leaves for DePaul...

McCauley and Walter (kid from Lafayette) are only Indiana kids on his LMU rosters, going back to 2013-14
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I have no idea what we have to look forward to, but without looking it up I’m guessing quite a few D2 All Americans transfer up to D1. I’d imagine most don’t try and go high-major, but I think it’s common for D2 players to try and move up.

Tate Hall from Loyola is an example of a successful D2 transfer, and he wasn’t even an All American at U-Indy.
 
BrokerZ said:
I have no idea what we have to look forward to, but without looking it up I’m guessing quite a few D2 All Americans transfer up to D1. I’d imagine most don’t try and go high-major, but I think it’s common for D2 players to try and move up.

Tate Hall from Loyola is an example of a successful D2 transfer, and he wasn’t even an All American at U-Indy.
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I only looked at the 2019-20 D2 All-Americans (https://nabc.com/nabc_releases/2020/d2_all_america)

16 players; 8 SRs (didn't research as likely ineligible) of the 8 players; 3 transferred

Cam Martin, Missouri Southern State, 6-9, Junior, Forward, Yukon, OK -- transferred to Jacksonville State (OVC)
Courvoisier McCauley, Lincoln Memorial, 6-5, Sophomore, Guard, Indianapolis, IN -- transferred to DePaul (Big East)
Tyrell Roberts, UCSD, 5-11, R-Sophomore, Guard, Sacramento, CA -- opt'd out of 2020-21 season, transferred to Washington State (Pac-12)

Here's the entire NABC All-American list (https://www.nabc.com/awards/all_america/history)

I did not research other selection bodies but I doubt there's a large variance between selection bodies; I'd venture that this season, last season are one-offs given the NCAA's leeway w/ COVID and eligibility
 

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BrokerZ said:
I have no idea what we have to look forward to, but without looking it up I’m guessing quite a few D2 All Americans transfer up to D1. I’d imagine most don’t try and go high-major, but I think it’s common for D2 players to try and move up.

Tate Hall from Loyola is an example of a successful D2 transfer, and he wasn’t even an All American at U-Indy.
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I loosely follow USI, who plays in probably the top Div II Conference in America - GLVC, and I don't recall ANY upward Div I transfers. It's not the norm...Div I to Div II is "normal."
 
Just A Fan said:
The fact that Coach has had players transfer UP from D2 to D1 teams is encouraging to me. That shows he can either recruit good talent or is good at improving players. Now if he had guys going from D2 to D3 I'd be more concerned.
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So, you'd then be encouraged by ISU players transferring up to "Power 5" teams vice spending their 4 yrs at ISU?
 

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4Q_iu said:
So, you'd then be encouraged by ISU players transferring up to "Power 5" teams vice spending their 4 yrs at ISU?
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I don't think anyone would be "happy" about that, but I'm not sure how Coach X would fair better than Coach Y in regards to this problem.

A one-time transfer waiver was always going to hurt mid-major teams in regards to their most talented players.
 
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