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Loyola-Chicago joining MVC this week (Oakland to Horizon League)
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I totally agree with Western not bringing much, however I would think Eastern would add ticket sales when playing ISU
Not even a REMOTE possibility... The Toppers' consider themselves ABOVE FCS conferences; as they've sold their souls to the FBS Devil.
In addition, most WKU grads I know are as arrogant as ISU-Muncee grads.
I beg to differ. First, both schools offer football which in my grand unification plans is huge. Taking Western in would mean one more MVFC team into the MVC moving us closer to the (my) goal. We've only played them 9 times in hoops and hold a 7-2 series lead.
As for EIU, we're played more games against them (122, believe they're in our Top 5 All-Time opponents) than we have against most Valley teams and it goes all the way back to 1909. The school is very close so having fans be able to travel to and fro is a big bonus and they also field a damn good football program most of the time. I'd love to see them join the MVC/MVFC and sent a team from the MVFC packing -- likely Youngstown State since they don't feel they belong anyhow. Let them go rip up the Ohio Valley every year.
I know I'm in the minority on both of them, but I would take either. I'm not interested in acting like Butler and thinking we're too good for certain programs. I'd prefer EIU.
The Atl-10 has 16 members today; 2 have said they're leaving Butler and Xavier for the new Big East; Geo-town is pulling for Richmond to join as well.
Charlotte is also leaving for C-USA; Temple is leaving for the old Big East (America 12??)
The Atl-10 will soon have 11 or fewer members; while i'd LOVE to see SLU replace the Jays; I don't see that occuring. They would save on travel costs but they've been in the Atl-10 since 2005... why leave now?
One thing to remember during all this is that the MVC is a basketball conference first, the MVC has 0, nada, zilcho to do with football, therefore the only school or schools that will be considered 1st are schools (or a school) that emphasizes, and puts a majority of their resources, towards basketball. That's just the way it's going to be, we may as well all expect that when an announcement is made regarding expansion of the MVC.
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That's fine but I don't have to like it and doesn't make it right. If we could ever jump to a unified conference, I'd be all for it.
I totally see your point, and there are others who would love to have it be a unified BB/Football conference, but as long as Drake, Bradley, and UE are in the MVC it will never be that way.
Chances of SLU going to the MVC took a big hit when Majerus passed away. He desperately wanted out of the A-10 because he hated the travel (which he didn't think was good for the student -- and probably wasn't so great for his health).
Well, I still think UE bolts within the next couple of years. They can be the crown jewel of the Horizon. Also, Drake has football so I don't lump them in because even though it is "non scholarship" they offer academic scholarships to pretty much the entire team which essentially makes it the same. This is why I'd be totally cool with going after Valpo, especially since we've got a pretty long series history with them -- over 75 games, which like EIU, is more than some of our current Valley opponents like UNI, MSU, etc.
You are spot on. Majerus had great respect for the Valley. But Father Biondi has delusions of grandeur for the STL bb program. The MVC didn't carry enough "bling" for him.
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Please, please, please - no EIU or WIU. The MVC is a basketball league (sorry to all the other sports, but that's the fact) and, in that vein, the MVC needs to add schools that increase (or have the potential to increase) the Valley's basketball profile. WIU and EIU SUCK at basketball. They add nothing, nada, zilch to the conference. In fact, they would just add another 200+ RPI team each year, which would make it that much harder for anyone in the MVC to get an at-large to the NCAA tournament. Watch what happens when WSU or us or UNI played SIU this year - even with a win our RPI took a rather large hit. Get beat by them, like we did, and your RPI goes south for a vacation. We don't need more of those types of programs in the MVC, particularly when we are just starting to be a consistent top 5 program. A stronger Valley is good for all of us. A weaker Valley is bad. Period.
We probably should just move to the A10 then.
MVC expansion candidates
Got sick of seeing Creighton's name every time we were discussing MVC expansion and since they are no longer relevant to the MVC, I decided to create a new thread to discuss MVC expansion candidates.
Got sick of seeing Creighton's name every time we were discussing MVC expansion and since they are no longer relevant to the MVC, I decided to create a new thread to discuss MVC expansion candidates.
I guess that means I win the argument? :razz:
Can you move the posts I created for six(I think) possible candidates into this thread? Might be helpful?
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Nice idea; we can't afford the travel!
create a poll with all (realistic only) teams that the MVC could add. And we'll see who ISU fans choose.
Still don't care what they do... Lol
I hear they're bringing in [INSERT TRACK/XC POWERHOUSE HERE]. Looks like ISU won't be winning all of those track/xc titles now. Do you still not care? LOL