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About as bad as THS continuing to press Turkey Run in the Pizza Hut Classic when they were up by 40 points.
Final Score: 94-36
Their leading scorer (with 36) left the game with 3 minutes left to play...
 
Eleven said:
About as bad as THS continuing to press Turkey Run in the Pizza Hut Classic when they were up by 40 points.
Final Score: 94-36
Their leading scorer (with 36) left the game with 3 minutes left to play...
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I'm not going to defend South - however I am going to offer this, my understanding is going into that game vs. Turkey Run South had won what 1 game? Vs. Northview maybe? and Northview isn't very good - I'm not sure who exactly South had beat... Anyway, they had only won one game all season. My point being, I think the coach needed to do something to make his team feel good about it's self. Maybe running up 90 plus would give the squad a little needed confidence. Seeing how South went on to win the loser bracket it might have worked a little bit. I don't know if that was his thought process, if it was then I personally would tend to agree with the move.

Thoughts? I'm open to hearing others? I didn't see the South game and I haven't even seen South play this season. Although I graduated from South I have absolutely no bias toward them in basketball at all.
 
This is a conversation I have had many times. I feel that winning by 25-30 in high school is a beating. I feel a good coach with respect for the other team and the game would call a time out and tell his team to spread it out, work on fundamentals, setting up plays, trying new things, but not pressing and running up the score. You can work on alot of things win you are up. But to beat a team by 50 or more is disrespectfu. I am sure anyone watching would think so too.
 
FLSycamore said:
You can work on alot of things win you are up. But to beat a team by 50 or more is disrespectful.
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And wouldn't it be a grand day for Indiana State to be able to play those Spartan a-holes from Michigan State just one more time, and see us beat them by 50. Oh the joys of disrespect.

Heck, I would also enjoy seeing us being disrespectful to IU, Purdue, Ball State, Butler, Evansville and everyone in the MVC, on an annual basis....but hey, thats just me.
 
FLSycamore said:
This is a conversation I have had many times. I feel that winning by 25-30 in high school is a beating. I feel a good coach with respect for the other team and the game would call a time out and tell his team to spread it out, work on fundamentals, setting up plays, trying new things, but not pressing and running up the score. You can work on alot of things win you are up. But to beat a team by 50 or more is disrespectfu. I am sure anyone watching would think so too.
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Exactly, which is why the National Federation of HS Sports in the early 90's enacted the 10-run "slaughter rule" after 4 1/2 innings in baseball...maybe it's time to enact a similar rule in basketball, given the lack of TACT by some HS coaches? These type of games are a real liability for player injury, given the inattention & lack of focus that are a byproduct of such lopsided play.
 

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I know that in football the participants have the choice of a running clock when the score gets out of hand.I'm not sure what to do when two teams are obviously mismatched.The Pizza Hut Classic has provided us with several of these ugly games over the years.It has proven that class basketball may not be such a bad idea as the biggest schools have won 10 out of 12 years or something like that.South is not a particularly good team for the size of their school but there's a reason schools the size of Turkey Run aren't on their schedule.I think after getting ahead by 25 points the lowliest subs on the bench shoul be in any high school game.
 
hans1950 said:
I know that in football the participants have the choice of a running clock when the score gets out of hand.I'm not sure what to do when two teams are obviously mismatched.The Pizza Hut Classic has provided us with several of these ugly games over the years.It has proven that class basketball may not be such a bad idea as the biggest schools have won 10 out of 12 years or something like that.South is not a particularly good team for the size of their school but there's a reason schools the size of Turkey Run aren't on their schedule.I think after getting ahead by 25 points the lowliest subs on the bench shoul be in any high school game.
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Great Point. Well there is no "Class Basketball" when a team pulls that move.
 
I think Terre Haute South lost a lot of respect from people after that game. I heard numerous fans in the stands complaining about that and how rude it was. There is no room for that in high school sports. I think 30 points is a good enough win for a team that only had 1 win at that time. South's one win did come against a very good team in West Vigo though. I think Coach Ridge could have handled that a little better than he did, but he's a young coach and he's still learning the ropes.
 
And shoot every kid should get a trophy . Give me a break people you play to win regardless of feelings hurt you play to win . Should the coach have pulled back sure but dont chastize the man for it . I think its a lot classier to run the score up the way this coach did than to get a DUI and be allowed to coach in the WVPHC the way some coaches have been allowed to do . These are high school kids let them earn their lumps . I am sure somewhere in thier playing days they have run the score up on another team themselves.
 
Daveinth said:
And shoot every kid should get a trophy . Give me a break people you play to win regardless of feelings hurt you play to win . Should the coach have pulled back sure but dont chastize the man for it . I think its a lot classier to run the score up the way this coach did than to get a DUI and be allowed to coach in the WVPHC the way some coaches have been allowed to do . These are high school kids let them earn their lumps . I am sure somewhere in thier playing days they have run the score up on another team themselves.
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I don't think a win was ever in question. They won by 60 points.
Pretty sure that the other coach that you speak of was suspended for his actions.
And if Turkey Run did that to other teams, well, I guess that makes it all right... especially considering the rule that two wrongs do in fact make a right...
 

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Daveinth said:
And shoot every kid should get a trophy . Give me a break people you play to win regardless of feelings hurt you play to win . Should the coach have pulled back sure but dont chastize the man for it . I think its a lot classier to run the score up the way this coach did than to get a DUI and be allowed to coach in the WVPHC the way some coaches have been allowed to do . These are high school kids let them earn their lumps . I am sure somewhere in thier playing days they have run the score up on another team themselves.
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In my athletic career I took my fair share of 30 point losses but this and the 100 to 0 game are terrible shows of sportsmanship.there comes a point where you take your foot off the pedal. You can call it soft or whatever but the school organizations clearly can't let crap like this happen with such regularity.
 
Daveinth said:
And shoot every kid should get a trophy . Give me a break people you play to win regardless of feelings hurt you play to win . Should the coach have pulled back sure but dont chastize the man for it . I think its a lot classier to run the score up the way this coach did than to get a DUI and be allowed to coach in the WVPHC the way some coaches have been allowed to do . These are high school kids let them earn their lumps . I am sure somewhere in thier playing days they have run the score up on another team themselves.
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For what its worth I agree. We are talking about a coach running up a score here - like lets get real. I told you why I think he did it and I think it was probably necessary - South hadn't scored the ball well all season so I would suggest that giving his kids some confidence was more important than the actual score of the game. And though Norths coach did serve his suspension I don't believe it fit the crime - in fact I would have removed his ass from coaching all togeather.
 
SycamoreStateofMind said:
For what its worth I agree. We are talking about a coach running up a score here - like lets get real. I told you why I think he did it and I think it was probably necessary - South hadn't scored the ball well all season so I would suggest that giving his kids some confidence was more important than the actual score of the game. And though Norths coach did serve his suspension I don't believe it fit the crime - in fact I would have removed his ass from coaching all togeather.
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I don't think anyone deserved to lose their job over this but come on, 69-1? There comes a point where the coach should have thought (Common sense thinking here) "Maybe I should let them score a few buckets so this doesn't look nearly as bad."
 
Dgreenwell3 said:
I don't think anyone deserved to lose their job over this but come on, 69-1? There comes a point where the coach should have thought (Common sense thinking here) "Maybe I should let them score a few buckets so this doesn't look nearly as bad."
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69-1?? Whats that?? Look I wasn't at the game and I certainly have not seen South play this season so I probably shouldn't offer up the position I have taken. I know what you mean DG and just understand that just because I can justify why he did it doesn't mean I would have done the same thing in that situation - in fact I wouldn't have let them play the entire 4th quarter. But its not my team, people get caught up in the final score all the time. A loss is a
loss and a win is a win, slice it however you want. The coach made a decision, he's in the position to take whatever comes his way by each of you - everyone can have an opinion its fine by me. I can see this one both ways.
 
Dgreenwell3 said:
I don't think anyone deserved to lose their job over this but come on, 69-1? There comes a point where the coach should have thought (Common sense thinking here) "Maybe I should let them score a few buckets so this doesn't look nearly as bad."
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If I were a player and someone let me score, I'd be more pissed.
 

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You know that's why it's so screwed up those who are moaning are the same ones who thinks every kid gets a trophy and believe you don't keep score in tee ball.You want to put kids in a bubble and not teach them the true reason they are playing and that's to be competitive. If you get your ass beat then train harder ,get better or find a new sport because you suck to bad at basketball. What's next if a boxer is beating you to bad send in your sparring partner so the guy has a better chance?
 
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Daveinth said:
You know that's why it's so screwed up those who are moaning are the same ones who thinks every kid gets a trophy and believe you don't keep score in tee ball.You want to put kids in a bubble and not teach them the true reason they are playing and that's to be competitive. If you get your ass beat then train harder ,get better or find a new sport because you suck to bad at basketball. What's next if a boxer is beating you to bad send in your sparring partner so the guy has a better chance?
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For starters:
Since you are using a fighting reference and this is about high school kids I will tell you that no one is allowed to go out and put. A 69 to 1 beatdown on any kid in any boxing ring in the country that is sanctioned. (I train in a boxing gym) secondly you are once again going way off in the deep end with this. Not sure the words competition and 69-1 score should be used in the same sentence except with te qualifier of "no"
 
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