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4Q_iu said:
he's credited with 35 minutes over 4 games

is that under the max allowable for RS years?
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Pretty sure Sycamorebacker is correct, you play 1 second of ncaa hoops and you can't redshirt. The 4 game rule only pertains to football. Have no clue why a dude can play a third of a football season and still get a redshirt, while a guy or girl can't play in a few games so their coach can evaluate them in a game. Doesn't make sense to me at all.
 

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CardLake49 said:
Pretty sure Sycamorebacker is correct, you play 1 second of ncaa hoops and you can't redshirt. The 4 game rule only pertains to football. Have no clue why a dude can play a third of a football season and still get a redshirt, while a guy or girl can't play in a few games so their coach can evaluate them in a game. Doesn't make sense to me at all.
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Thanks -- a redshirt rule specifically for football is, would be dumb a f*ck but we are discussing an ncaa "rule"

at one time, pretty sure it was a certain percentage of games/game time but that likely allowed too many smaller schools a 'disadvantage'

logic would be a standard number of games that an athlete could participate or be eligible to participate and it could before/by a certain date

but there's no logic in the ncaa
 
Wouldn't Peterson qualify as a "Medical RS" due to his early season injury? Did he exceed the 30% marker?

www.nwitimes.com

Quimari Peterson suffers setback, to have role in Indiana State rotation

Indiana State coach Josh Schertz said Times’ 2021 Boys Basketball Player of the Year Quimari Peterson suffered an injury and was progressing to have a rotational role as a true
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***According to the Senior Associate Athletic Director for Compliance, Scott Young, “the NCAA has two requirements for a medical redshirt; the injury must have occurred in the first half of the season, and the athlete must have competed in less than 30 percent of the season.Jan 18, 2022
 
TreeTop said:
Is this link the "official transfer portal"? Or is 247sports.com just a third party? And if just a third party, would someone be able to post a link to the official portal?

247sports.com

2022 College Basketball Transfer Portal

2022 College Basketball Transfer Portal
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There is no official public facing transfer portal. 247 is a recruiting website.

I find VerbalCommits transfer list to be the most complete. They keep it for both D1 and D2:

Verbal Commits | D1 Players Transferring in 2022

Verbal Commits - D1 Players Transferring in 2022
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Verbal Commits

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I'm legitimately surprised that no players (other than Key) have hit the portal yet. Maybe some are waiting for the tourney to begin or end? Maybe everyone is coming back?

 
I assume in the next few weeks Coach will have individual meetings where he will cut or invite back and explain where he thinks they fit in.
He can't cut yet. He needs all of the their bodies for practice.
 
Here's my prediction on whose leaving: Key, Neese , Henry(pro ball in Europe), Tucker and Wilbar or Hittle...i wish all could stay and grow with the team...Truth is that doesnt always happen
 

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I’d say you will be looking at something like this once all is said and done… Key - out. Hittle - out. Peterson - out. Tucker out.

Wilbar - close. Henry - close.

It’a tough enough to replace four players - a complete roster overhaul would be pretty difficult to accomplish. Even though Wilbar and Henry got a lot of run I wouldn’t assume either are safe. Henry because of his inability to grasp the mental aspect of D1 college athletics and Wilbar because of his production.

In a perfect world you get Henry to understand his mental is really the only thing standing in his way from being a really good player at this level. The problem is he was just asked to do way way to much this season once Key went down.
 
SycamoreStateofMind said:
I’d say you will be looking at something like this once all is said and done… Key - out. Hittle - out. Peterson - out. Tucker out.

Wilbar - close. Henry - close.

It’a tough enough to replace four players - a complete roster overhaul would be pretty difficult to accomplish. Even though Wilbar and Henry got a lot of run I wouldn’t assume either are safe. Henry because of his inability to grasp the mental aspect of D1 college athletics and Wilbar because of his production.

In a perfect world you get Henry to understand his mental is really the only thing standing in his way from being a really good player at this level. The problem is he was just asked to do way way to much this season once Key went down.
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I think 4 is probably the most you want to flip before you run the risk of repeating the same issues from this year. Not sure how you put a valuation on it, but system continuity versus something similar to baseball's WAR rating.

I don't include Key since I never had him on the scholarship chart for next year. Right now we're one scholarship over with Martin so to bring in 4 additional, that means 5 would have to go if we're not including Avila and Martin in the overhaul numbers.
 
I think some of you are getting carried away. I would encourage Tucker to leave. I'm hopeful that Neese and Henry can use their skills and don't try to play beyond their abilities. I would beg Crawford and Peterson to stay. I'm in the middle on Wilbar, Bledson and Hittle. I don't push young players away that have some talent. We have had zillions of FR here that redshirted or averaged just a few points as FR and developed into good players for us.
An example is Peterson, who is way ahead of Devonte Brown or Harry Marshal. I would say he is closer to Gabe Moore or Brenton Scott.
You have to bring in good players and develop them. FR are kids that have experience playing against kids. They will become men.

I'm convinced that signing Martin and Avila puts us on the right track talent-wise.
 
sycamorebacker said:
I think some of you are getting carried away. I would encourage Tucker to leave. I'm hopeful that Neese and Henry can use their skills and don't try to play beyond their abilities. I would beg Crawford and Peterson to stay. I'm in the middle on Wilbar, Bledson and Hittle. I don't push young players away that have some talent. We have had zillions of FR here that redshirted or averaged just a few points as FR and developed into good players for us.
An example is Peterson, who is way ahead of Devonte Brown or Harry Marshal. I would say he is closer to Gabe Moore or Brenton Scott.
You have to bring in good players and develop them. FR are kids that have experience playing against kids. They will become men.

I'm convinced that signing Martin and Avila puts us on the right track talent-wise.
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The staff is ACTIVELY recruiting 2022 kids still and we're already 1 over. Seems like they may feel differently.
 

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Henry leaving would be really bad news. Surely he isn't getting looks from greener grass is he? I don't see us replacing him with his skill set on the transfer market. More importantly that would signal to me that the notion that guys love coach so much may not be all that its cracked up to be.
 
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