'10 TX C Myles Walker (LOI)

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Indiana (Kitchell), Wisky (McWhorter) and now Texas (Walker)...not a bad spread. Obviously the first choices are the Indy area (including Chi-town and parts of nearby IL but sometimes you have to go outside that area to find what you need. Welcome Myles...a big is what we needed and a big you are! Good luck this season and can't wait to see you in a Sycamore uni next season.

Got me thinking...what's the spread gonna be like in 2010 w/ classes...well here ya go (subject to change if any or all of the freshmen redshirt this season)

Seniors
Jake Kelly G/F (you name it, he'll play it)
Grant Leitnaker C
Isiah Martin PF/C
Aaron Carter SG/SF

Juniors
Dwayne Lathan SG/SF
Jordan Printy SG
Carl Richard F (both)
Myles Walker PF/C

Sophs
RJ Mahurin SF/PF
Jake Odom PG
Koang Dolouny SF/PF
Lucas Eitel (doesn't count towards scholies) G/F
Logan Eitel (doesn't count towards scholies) G/F

Frosh
Steve McWhorter PG/SG
Jake Kitchell PF/C

That's a nice spread of classes and a nice spread of positions (we have lots of solid, versatile players that can play two positions...this bodes well for playing time if said player can learn multiple positions well)...now it could get interesting if the freshmen from this season redshirt...that would be one really big class (unless, of course, McWhorter or Kitchell redshirt :) ) ISU does not want to be in the position that CU is in where they quite possibly have to fill 6 openings in 2011.
 
Bummer...there's an article on the Walker verbal in jucojunction but my rivals membership isn't good enough to get the privilege to read it...jucojunction is a separate cost.

Rivals hasn't even acknowledged the McWhorter verbal...
 
Nope but ESPN.com has acknowledged it - Eddie you have to assume that all of those Freshman will redshirt this year. Here is the only way I see any of them playing this season.

1. An early season injury to one of our guards - would make it necessary to pull the shirt of Odum. He is good enough to step in as a reserve.

2. RJ would have to be next in line - we don't have a ton of size which could help his chances of not being red shirted. However I am guessing they really want to develop him physically and let him work on his game before they throw him into the fire.

3. If you want to get these guys through the system then you don't red shirt them. Maybe they don't view this class as a really strong class. In that case a couple of these kids might not get red shirted because they don't want them to tie up a scholie.
 

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In high school under 49 seconds is very good - anyone who has that kind of speed can be considered fast! In college that would be considered average speed - but yeah I would say he has pretty good wheels. Let's just say that anyone at any age that can run a 400 under 50 seconds has first class speed.
 
Morgan said:
In high school under 49 seconds is very good - anyone who has that kind of speed can be considered fast! In college that would be considered average speed - but yeah I would say he has pretty good wheels. Let's just say that anyone at any age that can run a 400 under 50 seconds has first class speed.
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At 6-foot-8, 250 pounds to boot. He was listed at 6-foot-7, 240 in high school.
 
Well I mean everything we have heard about the kid to this point suggests that he is "quick" which really has nothing to do with being able to run a 400. You can run a good 400 and not have "quick feet" on a basketball floor. I would tend to error on the side of caution when I hear that someone 6"7 240 ran a sub 50 or sub 49 400 meters. Not so much because of the 6"7, but more because of the 240 lbs part. I was not sure that it was possible to run sub 50 at that kind of weight.

For example: Usain Bolt is 6"5 190-200 lbs he could run a 400 in about 45 seconds... But let him be an exception to any rule.
 
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3. If you want to get these guys through the system then you don't red shirt them. Maybe they don't view this class as a really strong class. In that case a couple of these kids might not get red shirted because they don't want them to tie up a scholie.
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Does this make any sense? Why not just drop the scholarship if we don't want them?
 

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Redshirts

Kids are red-shirted for a variety of reasons; usually for their and school's benefit.

Agree with you SycFan -- I don't understand Morgan's thought process on this one
 
I think Morgan is correct. I think sometimes players are NOT redshirted if they will not improve enough to play and the coaches want to move them through.
 
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Does this make any sense? Why not just drop the scholarship if we don't want them?
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I guess that has been the standard set in the past - your right, this program is more likely to do that than what I suggested. I mean it's not like I said the kids went Milton Bradley on the program - maybe they just don't develop into the players they thought they would, in that case you made your bed (not very well) so you must sleep in it. You don't get to re-make it after the fact.... Because you should have done it right the first time! I understand if a kid get's let go for "other" reasons like Rico Stinson, that is something totally different.

But anyway that was kind of just my thought process - I didn't really expect anyone on here to understand it. I was getting at the fact that if you red shirt all of those players then you will have a Freshman class the following year that will be 6 deep which potentially is a problem the year following their SR. year, I guess unless any of those 6 turn pro. But you will have to fill 6 scholarships that next year. Thus you don't red shirt this entire freshman class - because 2 of the 4 players this year are tying up money the other 2 are preferred walk ons.

Hopefully that helps you guys - if not then I guess enjoy the weather!
 
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Coaches always have the option to release a kid from their scholarship....the argument that players are not redshirted due to the feeling they will not play, therefore you want to get them through their eligibility as quickly as possible makes about as much sense as recruiting a 5'10 kid to play in the post! Now a coach may hang on to an older kid who has been loyal and hard working, but I do not see them holding onto players who have only been in the program for a year if they do not think they will ever contribute. Sounds like ISU is getting overloaded with point guards and forwards....I would like to see a legit center with offensive skills and some guys who can flat out fill it up!
 
Yeah well if what you are suggesting is correct then we should have cut about 10 players in the past 5 years... I'm just saying - don't think this hasn't happened here. Kids sit on the bench "hurt" at programs across the country and never contribute one bit. Think what you want about my statement - you know exactly what I was getting at.
 

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I'm pretty sure that coach McKenna and before him, coach Waltman let go ( or encouraged an exodus) the kids they did not want around.
 
You mean guys like Brant Leitnaker who's career highs are 2 pts. and a rbs since 2006. Or a guy by the name of Mick Yelovich who's career highs were 2 pts. and 2 rbs in 4 years. And finally a guy by the name of Michael Kernan who had a carrer high of 3pts per game in 4 years? You are talking about guys like that right?

None of which were every told to get their bags and get out... But it's cool you are looking at this differently than myself and that's ok!

Or were you referring to kids who play 25+ mins a game as freshman and averaged 9pts a game? Thus sent packing?
 
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Coaches always have the option to release a kid from their scholarship....the argument that players are not redshirted due to the feeling they will not play, therefore you want to get them through their eligibility as quickly as possible makes about as much sense as recruiting a 5'10 kid to play in the post! Now a coach may hang on to an older kid who has been loyal and hard working, but I do not see them holding onto players who have only been in the program for a year if they do not think they will ever contribute. Sounds like ISU is getting overloaded with point guards and forwards....I would like to see a legit center with offensive skills and some guys who can flat out fill it up!
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I think we're talking about players like Anderson, Williamson, Kernan. Remember any of them?

What are you talking about ? We have plenty of inside players. Oh, you mean liike a Bill Walton? I think Coach is working on your request.

We are definitely NOT getting overloaded with anything. I think we have a great balance and depth.
 
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I guess that has been the standard set in the past - your right, this program is more likely to do that than what I suggested. I mean it's not like I said the kids went Milton Bradley on the program - maybe they just don't develop into the players they thought they would, in that case you made your bed (not very well) so you must sleep in it. You don't get to re-make it after the fact.... Because you should have done it right the first time! I understand if a kid get's let go for "other" reasons like Rico Stinson, that is something totally different.

But anyway that was kind of just my thought process - I didn't really expect anyone on here to understand it. I was getting at the fact that if you red shirt all of those players then you will have a Freshman class the following year that will be 6 deep which potentially is a problem the year following their SR. year, I guess unless any of those 6 turn pro. But you will have to fill 6 schollerships that next year. Thus you don't red shirt this entire freshman class - because 2 of the 4 players this year are tying up money the other 2 are preferred walk ons.


Boy, Morgan, you sure butchered the word scholarships.
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