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I agree, it all should be a level playing field. Spot on.

Did you miss the part where he wants an oligarchy? Five conferences to pull away from the NCAA and create their own thing.

This is what @IndyTreeFan has been calling for years. They're now saying the quiet part out loud.
 
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I 100% agree with that, too. I'd add in Title IX. Between the 14 program rule and it's application, all it has done has done is handcuffed schools into spending money when they really have no business in doing so.

If Title IX went away tomorrow, women's sports wouldn't go away. Schools would be able to focus money on women's sports they wish to field vs those they're being forced to field to meet hard caps. Being able to put more into women's hoops, women's track and field vs funding an 8th women's sport should be at the discretion of the school.

In 2023, there is no lack of college opportunity for anyone in the United States.

Agree -- though if more schools had NOT transitioned to Division I, they'd be better off financially -- fewer required teams (10 vs 14) and fewer scholarships for the sports.

As to Title IX -- there are plenty of advocates that would say the current opportunities in college today exist BECAUSE of Title IX.
 
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Yes.

The football program has revenues from ticket sales and money games. We averaged 4209 home attendance in 2022 per the NCAA and even if our average ticket price was $10 (it's lower), that would mean total ticket revenue of ~$250k (42k gate x 6 home games). We played one money game against Purdue which I believe they paid out $500k. So we essentially had $750k in football program revenue. Obviously there are a couple other line items but they're not meaningful revenue streams.

According to the Knight Commission website, football had a spend of $4.17m in 2022. So $4.17m - $750k is a $3.42 million dollar deficit. So to make those numbers line up, they collect student fees and then also take school funds to make them balance out -- which is the accounting magic/balance sheet bullshit numbers you see.

Where this compounds is that Title IX requires you provide a female athletic opportunity for every male opportunity. So for every guy on the football roster, we have to fund a female scholarship athlete to balance it out. If you look at the Knight Commission graph on spending, 31% is student financial aid ($5.5m) and if you realize that football is the largest scholarship sport by a factor of 5, suddenly that deficit is even larger because you have to fund women's sports to balance it out.

We can all love football as much as we want. But it's holding back all of our other sports where additional funding could mean turning them into elite programs nationally.


ISU-E has barely finished their first year of transitioning to Div I and the $$ Overlords $$ will soon descend upon that campus like the Ride of the Valkyries...

https://www.courierpress.com/story/...ne-year-after-move-to-division-i/70281161007/
 

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The Pac 10 (technically 12) still doesn't have a media deal finalized yet, but I think all indications are that the league is going to stick together at 10 for now with no expansion.
 
In other exit fee news:

I think EKU and JSU both have finally settled their exit fee litigation with the OVC for 750k apiece. After atty fees I'm guessing each University paid, well, $1,000,000 of a $1,000,000 exit fee haha. JSU announced this morning ($$$):


Also former ISU Provost Licari went on the record that his donors ponied up $1,000,000 in private donations specfically directed to pay for an exit fee to go to the ASUN, no prob. The man who could have been ISU Prez:

 

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In other exit fee news:

I think EKU and JSU both have finally settled their exit fee litigation with the OVC for 750k apiece. After atty fees I'm guessing each University paid, well, $1,000,000 of a $1,000,000 exit fee haha. JSU announced this morning ($$$):


Also former ISU Provost Licari went on the record that his donors ponied up $1,000,000 in private donations specfically directed to pay for an exit fee to go to the ASUN, no prob. The man who could have been ISU Prez:


So if Licari was the ISU President, he'd be rounding up donations to get ISU into the ASUN or OVC? That seems to be what you're saying... :unsure::unsure::unsure:
 
So if Licari was the ISU President, he'd be rounding up donations to get ISU into the ASUN or OVC? That seems to be what you're saying... :unsure::unsure::unsure:

No....the fact he/APSU can round up $1,000,000 in cash from donors so easily considering it is for such a specific football purpose impressed me--especially given it is a smaller FCS/midmajor with lots of D-1 schools in it's respective State that it has to compete with for students and donors. Sound familar?
 
Grab the 🍿. The MWC wants their exit fee 😆.


For a conference on the verge of dying, this is a weird move. By dying, I mean once your top program or two bolts, it's damn near impossible to recover since programs moving up to fill spots are unlikely to have the same needle movement. I haven't looked it up, but I recall their media rights deal is almost up, too. So to attempt to fuck of your best basketball school seems pretty moronic.

But the Pac 12 leadership isn't much better. They said every move will be academic first which makes no fucking sense when the schools are packaged and sold for media rights deals. Archaic fucking thinking because the Pac 12 has shit on Boise State forever because of this.
 
So if Licari was the ISU President, he'd be rounding up donations to get ISU into the ASUN or OVC? That seems to be what you're saying... :unsure::unsure::unsure:
And, if Licari was ISU president, we’d be in much better shape as a university in general.
Curtis has got to go!
 
No....the fact he/APSU can round up $1,000,000 in cash from donors so easily considering it is for such a specific football purpose impressed me--especially given it is a smaller FCS/midmajor with lots of D-1 schools in it's respective State that it has to compete with for students and donors. Sound familar?

It'd be interesting to see how many donors are covering that $1M

I'm not sure how much bigger a draw APU will be as an ASUN team vice OVC
 

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It'd be interesting to see how many donors are covering that $1M

I'm not sure how much bigger a draw APU will be as an ASUN team vice OVC
Austin Peay, Eastern Kentucky, and Jacksonville State all have / had FBS aspirations. The general idea was that the ASUN could sponsor FBS football since Liberty was in the league at the time. Then the CUSA imploded and took Liberty, Jacksonville State, and Kennesaw State from the ASUN and put a bit of a damper on that dream.

The newest idea seems to be to play FCS football for a few more years under the UAC brand (WAC / ASUN), and then once everyone gets their footing the WAC will try to restart FBS football and all the schools will move up together.

It's a bit of a mess in my opinion, but I guess you can't blame them for trying.
 
For a conference on the verge of dying, this is a weird move. By dying, I mean once your top program or two bolts, it's damn near impossible to recover since programs moving up to fill spots are unlikely to have the same needle movement. I haven't looked it up, but I recall their media rights deal is almost up, too. So to attempt to fuck of your best basketball school seems pretty moronic.

But the Pac 12 leadership isn't much better. They said every move will be academic first which makes no fucking sense when the schools are packaged and sold for media rights deals. Archaic fucking thinking because the Pac 12 has shit on Boise State forever because of this.
The way I understand it is that if you give a 2+ year exit notice to the MWC the exit fee is only $17M and if you give less than that it is something like $34M. The 2+ year deadline if they were to join the PAC in 2025 was at the end of June. I'm not sure what the folks at SDSU were told, but they must have thought they were about to get an invite.

The Pac-12 has been negotiating a new TV deal, but they can't seem to get the amount that they want. They were supposed to have a deal by the end of June, but they still don't. No one wants to give them what they want because USC and UCLA are gone after next season, and everyone knows that Oregon and Washington are probably 50/50 to end up in the Big Ten at some point. With that said it's unlikely that UO and UW would sign a long term GOR. ACC schools like FSU and Clemson are already regretting that mistake, and if it wasn't for that they'd probably already be packing their bags for the SEC.

My prediction is that the PAC "10" stays together and adds no one. You're definitely right about them being too overly focused on academics. Boise State and SDSU together would be a perfect fit athletically for that league. I am doubting that the PAC's new deal will be as good as the Big 12's, and with the uncertainty around UO and UW, I'd have left yesterday for the B12 if I was in charge at Colorado U and/or U Arizona.

Going back to the MWC, they pretty much know that it's Pac-12 or bust for SDSU. They really have no where to go. I suppose SDSU could maybe go independent for football and maybe join the WCC for their other sports (like BYU did). Either way SDSU has made it clear that they don't intend on staying in the MWC long term, so I don't really blame their commissioner for the stance she's taking.

In my view the MVC needs to add a strong exit fee with a minimum notice clause. They should have done that after Creighton left. Instead we just gave Wichita and Loyola free passes to leave as well.
 
For a conference on the verge of dying, this is a weird move. By dying, I mean once your top program or two bolts, it's damn near impossible to recover since programs moving up to fill spots are unlikely to have the same needle movement. I haven't looked it up, but I recall their media rights deal is almost up, too. So to attempt to fuck of your best basketball school seems pretty moronic.

But the Pac 12 leadership isn't much better. They said every move will be academic first which makes no fucking sense when the schools are packaged and sold for media rights deals. Archaic fucking thinking because the Pac 12 has shit on Boise State forever because of this.

How many TV eyes does Boise State pull? I've met some "passionate" boise fans but have met more San Diego State grads.

Pac-12 may be better as the Pac-10; though losing a majority of the LA market will hurt
 
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