Indiana State Announces Josh Schertz as Next Men's Basketball Coach

[SycamoreStateofMind]

Not sure...

But sounds like Odum is out of the fold and I’m pissed. One of your own. A local man. A top 5 player. Already on the staff. If he’s not in the fold you can call me an personally tell me why or I’m out because it doesn’t make sense to me.

Otherwise great interview and very insightful... But the separation between what Lansing accomplished and the lack of acknowledgment of anything from the past in a positive manor is VERY telling. If you can’t listen to his words and see how he’s distancing himself from Lansing then you can’t be helped...

Does it matter?? Maybe. Maybe not. A lot of people on here were Waltman fans - some were not Lansing fans. GL always referenced Lansing and the success he had here and his influence on him.

This is 100% opinion and could be very wrong. But I believe that Richardson is not a hire he wanted to make - that’s why he put Graves ahead of him. He made the hire because he needed to for retention and the current Admin asked that he be retained. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong to retain him. As the third assistant at Indiana State I think it’s a slam dunk actually.

 

[jben]

Josh or anybody else,
I am dying on the vine waiting for some good news. Can somebody find some good news concerning the transfer portal or recruiting......
Not knowing sux!!!!!! Purdue offering the Waddell kid was another bad sign. I am confident Schertz, Richardson and Graves are working
hard to get some players......I would just like to know something positive. Can somebody throw an old dog a bone??????
By the way...I mentioned previously that I collect vintage ISU programs, etc. The other day I obtained a game program from
the 1949-50 season....they won the National Intercollegiate tournament as a result several ISU players represented the U.S. in the Pan-Am games
.....winning the Gold!!!!! ISU played in the national tournament 12 times between 1942 1nd 1963. Winning once, finishing 2nd twice (losing to Louisville and SIU),
3rd once and fourth once. Those were the glory days!!!!

 

[TreeTop]

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[TreeTop]

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The interview, SSOM got it!

 

[Jason Svoboda]

Not sure...

But sounds like Odum is out of the fold and I’m pissed. One of your own. A local man. A top 5 player. Already on the staff. If he’s not in the fold you can call me an personally tell me why or I’m out because it doesn’t make sense to me.

Otherwise great interview and very insightful... But the separation between what Lansing accomplished and the lack of acknowledgment of anything from the past in a positive manor is VERY telling. If you can’t listen to his words and see how he’s distancing himself from Lansing then you can’t be helped...

Does it matter?? Maybe. Maybe not. A lot of people on here were Waltman fans - some were not Lansing fans. GL always referenced Lansing and the success he had here and his influence on him.

This is 100% opinion and could be very wrong. But I believe that Richardson is not a hire he wanted to make - that’s why he put Graves ahead of him. He made the hire because he needed to for retention and the current Admin asked that he be retained. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong to retain him. As the third assistant at Indiana State I think it’s a slam dunk actually.

Yeah, definitely means Odum is gone based on this. Would have been nice to keep him in the fold. Curious if it is possible to get him into a different position like a DOBO or something else?

As for separation from Lansing, it's probably smart to do. I'd think he was probably given a soft directive from the administration but I'd probably go the same route to try to close those wounds and get them to heal as quick as possible. Then he can go out and trying to reestablish relationships with those boosters that feel burnt, betrayed, what have you.

 

[Jason Svoboda]

Josh or anybody else,
I am dying on the vine waiting for some good news. Can somebody find some good news concerning the transfer portal or recruiting......
Not knowing sux!!!!!! Purdue offering the Waddell kid was another bad sign. I am confident Schertz, Richardson and Graves are working
hard to get some players......I would just like to know something positive. Can somebody throw an old dog a bone??????
By the way...I mentioned previously that I collect vintage ISU programs, etc. The other day I obtained a game program from
the 1949-50 season....they won the National Intercollegiate tournament as a result several ISU players represented the U.S. in the Pan-Am games
.....winning the Gold!!!!! ISU played in the national tournament 12 times between 1942 1nd 1963. Winning once, finishing 2nd twice (losing to Louisville and SIU),
3rd once and fourth once. Those were the glory days!!!!

The interview says he hopes to announce 3-4 signings this week.

 

[dino]

Considering that Schertz mentioned his assistants are on campus working does anybody know who the other 2 mystery guys are?

 

[SycamoreStateofMind]

Quite frankly - if Jake Odum isn’t one of them I will tell him to his face that is a mistake and see what type of conversation he wants to have about it.

No shade toward anyone - but if you retained anyone from this current staff it’s #13 for a lot of obvious reasons. But hell what do I know anymore. I need to stick to like restaurant reviews on Yelp. Way more fun.

 

[treeman]

Thought that was a pretty good interview. I didn't get the vibe that Schertz is distancing himself from the Lansing era or acknowledging it; he just seems like a forward thinker and anything done yesterday doesn't have time for today. The one thing I like about how he talks is he seems to have catch phrases for a lot of things. I've watched a lot of coaching seminars from successful coaches from all levels and they all use a lot of phrases and terms for important aspects in their coaching. Anyways, I'm excited to see some signings come in and who the other 2 coaches are

 

[4Q_iu]

Quite frankly - if Jake Odum isn’t one of them I will tell him to his face that is a mistake and see what type of conversation he wants to have about it.

No shade toward anyone - but if you retained anyone from this current staff it’s #13 for a lot of obvious reasons. But hell what do I know anymore. I need to stick to like restaurant reviews on Yelp. Way more fun.

Weren't you JUST preaching, demanding "perspective?" If Schertz wants to retain Odum, he will. If he doesn't, he won't.

C'mon folks... this is just another broken egg for the omelette

 

[SycamoreStateofMind]

Weren't you JUST preaching, demanding "perspective?" If Schertz wants to retain Odum, he will. If he doesn't, he won't.

C'mon folks... this is just another broken egg for the omelette

Perspective related to “kids” making a decision and being bullish about those decisions. Completely different - but come on 4q I’m not telling you anything you don’t already know. I thought we both agreed to this a long time ago.

It’s not just is what it is - Odum wanted to be on staff. He has a strong relationship with Key. He’s one of the best 5 players we’ve ever had. He’s a local guy who knows a lot of people. It’s not as simple as “if he doesn’t he won’t”...

 

[SycamoreStateofMind]

Thought that was a pretty good interview. I didn't get the vibe that Schertz is distancing himself from the Lansing era or acknowledging it; he just seems like a forward thinker and anything done yesterday doesn't have time for today. The one thing I like about how he talks is he seems to have catch phrases for a lot of things. I've watched a lot of coaching seminars from successful coaches from all levels and they all use a lot of phrases and terms for important aspects in their coaching. Anyways, I'm excited to see some signings come in and who the other 2 coaches are

Man I love that coach - he’s got good catch phrases!

 

[4Q_iu]

Perspective related to “kids” making a decision and being bullish about those decisions. Completely different - but come on 4q I’m not telling you anything you don’t already know. I thought we both agreed to this a long time ago.

It’s not just is what it is - Odum wanted to be on staff. He has a strong relationship with Key. He’s one of the best 5 players we’ve ever had. He’s a local guy who knows a lot of people. It’s not as simple as “if he doesn’t he won’t”...

Has Tyreke key decided to return?

Just because Odum wanted to be on staff doesn't mean he will -- people in hell want ice water and a leash on that damn Cerberus... pretty sure they're NOT going to get the water or a leash on Cerberus.

IF Schertz wishes to retain Odum, he will.
IF Schertz doesn't want to, he won't.

Richardson may have been the "must retain staff member" between Clinkscales and Schertz.

Staff upheavals are the NORM when a head coaching change occurs, especially in this scenario where the new hire was "outside the staff, outside the family, outside the community,"

No one should be surprised, shocked, etc over an "outsider," building their staff. Period.

THIS is what occurs with coaching changes. Several people have mentioned, stated, "move on from Lansing." Great, fine. I'd venture that those same people need to also say "move on from the Lansing Era."

 

[Chief_Quabachi]

Undoubtedly Coach Schertz has a monumental task ahead. Hopefully, he will have similar success in rebuilding the sycamore program like Coach Drew @ Baylor.

 

[rsperge]

The Lansing era is gone, its time to move on to the future, and not the past, Coach Schertz has to bring in people he is comfortable with, and people who will buy into his new system. Upon watching LMU the last 3 games or so, u can forget about that magical "63" point number

 

[4Q_iu]

Undoubtedly Coach Schertz has a monumental task ahead. Hopefully, he will have similar success in rebuilding the sycamore program like Coach Drew @ Baylor.

apples and potatoes... we should HAVE the available resources that Baylor has...

 

[4Q_iu]

The Lansing era is gone, its time to move on to the future, and not the past, Coach Schertz has to bring in people he is comfortable with, and people who will buy into his new system. Upon watching LMU the last 3 games or so, u can forget about that magical "63" point number

Guess that's why he's bringing three LMU players to Terre Haute...

jury isn't out.... jury selection is still being held

 

[rsperge]

Watched the interview, wonder who the 5 players that are still around. that Coach Schertz was referring to. Sounds like he should have 3 or 4 signee's by end of the week he mentions, have to buy into the system and culture. Mentions his 2 assistants, Graves, nd Richardson, but NO Odum. Plus, he sure speaks fast.
I'm excited, a new journey for ISU.

 

[BankShot]

I will be REALLY disappointed if Jake Odum isn’t back. From my understanding he wanted to come back. He clearly had a good relationship with current roster especially Key. If he’s not back - I’ve got some additional issues that I need to deal with.

Twitch, Jake needs to hold his head high and capitalize NATIONWIDE off of his Indiana God-given heritage. Having lived over half my life outside of the Hoosier State, I know how non-Hoosiers perceive Indiana Basketball. Frankly, if Odum markets himself properly, he should have no problem finding a perfect spot to continue his career, be it Div I or II. In fact, I've always felt that it's EASIER to nurture a career AWAY from your hometown, where the microscope of the past is constantly magnifying every move you make.

 

[SycamoreSam]

Nice segment with Coach Schertz.