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I think Mallory needs to go, but all I'm saying is at least a hypothetical new coach wouldn't be walking into the same disaster that Trent Miles had to clean up. Essentially my belief is that Mallory hasn't completely destroyed the program (yet) to where we'd need a total rebuild.
If we lose Saturday, we are there.
 

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Also looking at next year's schedule, we might have the most difficult schedule of any FCS school in the country. IU, Montana, and the 4 Dakotas will be very tough games and we play the 4 Dakotas 4 weeks in a row.

At least we'll know week 1 whether or not to watch the rest of the season. If we cant beat the *checks notes* McKendree Bearcats, there wont be any reason to tune in the rest of the ass handlngs the rest of the season.
 
Still want to know how any of you plan on getting a decent coach with the current state of our program, the lack of support from alumni and fans, no fan base, no history, THE WORST FACILITIES IN ALL OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL, and to top that off, we play in the SEC of FCS (puke). No self-respecting coach is going to take the ISU job. You'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel and get someone who is, again, totally out of their league. We'll attract the O-line coach from Northeastern Southern West Virginia State High School. Hell, the only reason we got Miles is because he was heartbroken at what had become of his old team. And when he could no longer promise freshman tons of playing time, he bolted. The issues have always been there.

As I think about the $$$ issue, we don't even have that problem. This football program is funded, relative to the rest of the league, better than the basketball program. Or at least it was during Mallory's early years. And look at what that got us. So, honestly, tell me how you plan to attract a better coach? Serious question.
 
As bad as Mallory is at least we aren't as bad as we were during the Lou West era. I mean we're still winning a game or two a year, and keeping it close in a few others. The biggest problem with Mallory is that he's just so ultra-conservative that he doesn't have that winning edge we need, and he doesn't seem to have any desire to mix up what he's doing. I think if someone else came in we could have a very competitive team within a couple of seasons.

You could actually make a reasonable argument that under a different coach's leadership this exact team could easily be 4-1 right now. The EIU, HCU, and YSU games were all very winnable games that in my view we probably should have won. The problem I have at this point is that we lose in the same predictable ultra-conservative way all of the time. Against HCU and YSU I don't think we came out prepared either as we fell behind by 3 possessions in the first half of both games. I kind of have to give credit to the staff for making adjustments for us to be able to come back, but we shouldn't have to be digging ourselves out of a hole like that two weeks in a row either. It's just super frustrating.
All those games were winnable except Purdue. He is not Head Coach material.
 
All those games were winnable except Purdue. He is not Head Coach material.

Given the absolute dumpster fire that Purdue is, especially at this moment; how was that NOT a winnable game?

If the Trees were that bad against a team that is THAT BAD, what would the Trees have looked like vs. **insert other Big "Ten" team here**?

the block letters are on the crumbling walls of Memorial - it's time to Shut It Down
 

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If this season goes a bad as it seems it will, he needs to quit, throw in the towel. He can get another job somewhere as an assistant coach. It’s clear he is not cut out to be the head coach at ISU. He shouldn’t have to be fired. For the sake of ISU football he needs to resign. He’s given the job his best shot.
😂😂 use logic! If you had a job making a quarter of a million $ per year with a guarantee for the next 3 years or they hand you a check for that amount to buy you out, you are just going to walk away cause you are a nice guy???🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ NO WAY IN HELL!!
Mallory has the control of this situation not the university, not the AD, not what little fans that are left and he is going to get paid.
 
Can't hardly blame Debbie Downer Curtis for firing Clinkscales at this point. Extending Mallory like he did was cause enough as far as I'm concerned. Always felt like Mallory got that extension gifted to him for taking the fall for Clink on deciding to not play in the Spring of 2021 (the only MVFC school to do so), a day or two after the football team led their little protest around campus and caught Covid. What a joke!

If the decision not to play really was Mallory's call then that should've been reason enough to not extend him. Everyone else played and got a free year out of it. Just a total loser mentality.
 
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Given the absolute dumpster fire that Purdue is, especially at this moment; how was that NOT a winnable game?

If the Trees were that bad against a team that is THAT BAD, what would the Trees have looked like vs. **insert other Big "Ten" team here**?

the block letters are on the crumbling walls of Memorial - it's time to Shut It Down
If IU keeps Cig and is even better next year.....oh boy....they'll beat ISU by as many as they want to.

To brighten the mood in here I do think the Trees win this weekend.....and anything -14 or shorter is a good bet.
 
😂😂 use logic! If you had a job making a quarter of a million $ per year with a guarantee for the next 3 years or they hand you a check for that amount to buy you out, you are just going to walk away cause you are a nice guy???🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ NO WAY IN HELL!!
Mallory has the control of this situation not the university, not the AD, not what little fans that are left and he is going to get paid.
Ya, but when you start to be despised for this disaster you have put on the field over and over, pretty hard to enjoy that money.
 
He has a network of coaches who will hire him. He can find a job probably paying similar money.
 

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If I had the option of A) leaving for another job, where I'll likely actually be held to some standards and have to perform, or B) get $250,000 a year (a VERY generous salary for TH cost of living) for the next 3 years and bank that as my retirement fund so I can ride off into the sunset in 2027 as the crumbling remains of Memorial Stadium collapse behind me like a Looney Tunes cartoon, I'm picking option B. If we can't afford to buy him out, there's zero reason or chance he's not here for 3 more years.
 
I think ISU needs better contracts that incentivize a coach to actually do a good job and not to just be on the dole until his contract expires. I remember Lansing casually admitting that he would've been fired years ago if the university could have afforded it.

Example: If we choose to buy you out early you get the equivalent of....
>2 years before contract expires= $150K per year until end of contract.
>1 year before contract expires= $200K per year until end of contract.
<1 year before contract expires= full amount

Then instead of having a $750K buyout we'd have a $450K buyout. Or if we waited another year we'd have a $400K buyout instead of a $500K buyout. Getting 400-450 thousand dollars of severance pay after doing a horrible job sounds like a pretty fair deal to me.
 
If I had the option of A) leaving for another job, where I'll likely actually be held to some standards and have to perform, or B) get $250,000 a year (a VERY generous salary for TH cost of living) for the next 3 years and bank that as my retirement fund so I can ride off into the sunset in 2027 as the crumbling remains of Memorial Stadium collapse behind me like a Looney Tunes cartoon, I'm picking option B. If we can't afford to buy him out, there's zero reason or chance he's not here for 3 more years.
Money aside, being a coach with his record, it will be hard for him to enjoy that money living in a town where your regarded as a failure. That would eventually get to most people.
 

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What’s so funny about that statement?

What's so funny? Do you BELIEVE there is an existing SOLID foundation for ISU football today?

If so, what does it look like? Truckloads of ca$h waiting to be spent on a brand new, sparkling stadium?
Ticket demand SO HIGH that the current Season Ticket APPLICANT waiting period is ~10-years?
A DESIRE to play for the Sycamores that is SO GREAT, the coaching staff turns away 3rd, 4th generation Sycamore Football legacies?

IS there "something" for another coach to 'have a crack at?"

The program is on life support; where is this Great Program that is doing Great Things that you (and others) BELIEVE exists?
 
I think ISU needs better contracts that incentivize a coach to actually do a good job and not to just be on the dole until his contract expires. I remember Lansing casually admitting that he would've been fired years ago if the university could have afforded it.

Example: If we choose to buy you out early you get the equivalent of....
>2 years before contract expires= $150K per year until end of contract.
>1 year before contract expires= $200K per year until end of contract.
<1 year before contract expires= full amount

Then instead of having a $750K buyout we'd have a $450K buyout. Or if we waited another year we'd have a $400K buyout instead of a $500K buyout. Getting 400-450 thousand dollars of severance pay after doing a horrible job sounds like a pretty fair deal to me.
If you do that at Indiana State in football you might get two people to actually apply for the job
 
What's so funny? Do you BELIEVE there is an existing SOLID foundation for ISU football today?

If so, what does it look like? Truckloads of ca$h waiting to be spent on a brand new, sparkling stadium?
Ticket demand SO HIGH that the current Season Ticket APPLICANT waiting period is ~10-years?
A DESIRE to play for the Sycamores that is SO GREAT, the coaching staff turns away 3rd, 4th generation Sycamore Football legacies?

IS there "something" for another coach to 'have a crack at?"

The program is on life support; where is this Great Program that is doing Great Things that you (and others) BELIEVE exists?
Life support, or is it in death throes with people holding the paddles and yelling “clear!”, trying to shock it back into existence?
 
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