[October 1, 2011] #23 Indiana State (3-1) at South Dakota State (1-3)

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OH was it...my bad...usually when daggers are inserted people don't try to hurry up and score and kick a bunch of onside kicks...and throw bombs in the back of the endzone and things like that....
 

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The dagger was inserted, you guys are being to critical...

If that was a Sycamore basketball game and we were up 30 and let the other team trim it to less than 10 with two or three minutes to go - trying to come up with my best analogy - would you be singing a different tune? Maybe not. Again, I missed two of the garbage time scores.
 
usually teams down by a lot in the fourth will play seniors that dont' get a lot of playing time and just run the clock out so you don't score again...they won't run 2 min o on ya because they may go 3 and out and you may score even if you do all run plays......I don't like to run the score up either but I do like to put people away...ysu put 77 on valpo...that is a bit much...siu is bad at it...they will try and send a message...my whole point is just put people away...
 

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usually teams down by a lot in the fourth will play seniors that dont' get a lot of playing time and just run the clock out so you don't score again...they won't run 2 min o on ya because they may go 3 and out and you may score even if you do all run plays......I don't like to run the score up either but I do like to put people away...ysu put 77 on valpo...that is a bit much...siu is bad at it...they will try and send a message...my whole point is just put people away...

Sdsu is a young team with a new qb. What's the point of playing seniors in that sitch? The young ones learn nothing.
 
just got home from the game, good showing for ISU fans, I'd guess there were 30-40 of us there, including Lansing, Prettyman, John Sherman, and parents of some of the players.

Thanks to Tom as always for the great tailgate! He and some of the others are heading to the Black Hills all week, then going to the UNI game Sat.

It was a good game, 1st half was shaky, but the team responded in the 2nd half and put the game away.

There were a lot of penalties tonight, on both sides, gonna have to be smarter next week at UNI. Some of the penalties were really bad, the one that comes to mind was the personal foul on Caleb Watkins on one of the kickoffs. That was a head scratcher, Miles was pretty po'd after that one. I think he learned his lesson.

Glad to be able to see the Sycamores win up here in the Dakotas. We'll see you all at homecoming.
 
it was the strangest thing, he was out there when sdsu kicked off at the start of the 3rd Q, they kicked the ball out of the endzone for a touchback, then Watkins inexplicably did something to draw a personal foul. I don't know if he shoved someone or what, but I could not, for the life of me, figure out what he was doing out there on special teams. The penalty is listed in the game report. Go to the start of the 3rd Q.

INDIANA STATE drive start at 15:00.
1-10 INS 20 PENALTY INS personal foul (Watkins, Caleb) 10 yards to the INS10

Waktins, the qb, plays special teams?
 
Wish Millington still posted on here. Wasn't NDSU the team he had a big problem with for running up the scores, or am I thinking of someone else? I know SIU and Ill. State did.

O yeah. It was absolutely tasteless what NDSU did. they ran the punter for a first down in the 4th quarter up plenty. It was designed too and didn't the coach complain about the hit on the punter? it wasn't a pleasant hit.
 

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Love the comments by Coach Miles, he's just a great representative for our fine institution.

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If that was a Sycamore basketball game and we were up 30 and let the other team trim it to less than 10 with two or three minutes to go - trying to come up with my best analogy - would you be singing a different tune? Maybe not. Again, I missed two of the garbage time scores.

No, I would be signing the same tune. Let me spell this out to you again. We were up 10 with under 3 to play and they had the length of the field to drive without their field goal kicker who was hurt early in the game. The #1 back in D1 AA was on the sideline resting an injury, this game was over.

I'm not going to get all excited over them scoring a few points at the end (even in basketball) I think a road win is a road win in college sports. You take them how you can get them, I mean it was a 1 point game at half. Except for the 3rd Quarter when Bell went off it was a close game.
 
usually teams down by a lot in the fourth will play seniors that dont' get a lot of playing time and just run the clock out so you don't score again...they won't run 2 min o on ya because they may go 3 and out and you may score even if you do all run plays......I don't like to run the score up either but I do like to put people away...ysu put 77 on valpo...that is a bit much...siu is bad at it...they will try and send a message...my whole point is just put people away...

And my whole point is look at the scoreboard, no matter how you spell it out the Sycamores still won by 2, count emm 2 freakin possessions. Get off it, they put them to bed in the third quarter when we outscored them 21 to 6. They outscored us 13 to 7 in the 4th quarter and that's it. Sure they were one play away from making it a game but isn't that the case most of the time? The dagger that you wanted came with 11 min. in the game when Bell ran in to make it 38 to 15 (you do the math), that capped off 21 strait points - WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO? They are playing on the road and in the conference - teams just don't decide to let seniors get playing time in the 4th quarter 2 games into the conference season - that doesn't happen. It's a 1 point game at half and we go up 38-15 and your asking for more??? Give me a break with that and these "............."
 

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And my whole point is look at the scoreboard, no matter how you spell it out the Sycamores still won by 2, count emm 2 freakin possessions. Get off it, they put them to bed in the third quarter when we outscored them 21 to 6. They outscored us 13 to 7 in the 4th quarter and that's it. Sure they were one play away from making it a game but isn't that the case most of the time? The dagger that you wanted came with 11 min. in the game when Bell ran in to make it 38 to 15 (you do the math), that capped off 21 strait points - WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO? They are playing on the road and in the conference - teams just don't decide to let seniors get playing time in the 4th quarter 2 games into the conference season - that doesn't happen. It's a 1 point game at half and we go up 38-15 and your asking for more??? Give me a break with that and these "............."

BigBlue79 making a good point here. Although I'm sure we're all thrilled with a road conference win and a 4-1 start....if this team wants to move to the next level ( I know we're all thrilled with what they have done so far in such a short amount of time) they do need to play stronger in the 4th quarter and finish teams off. It's just part of being a championship team. It's also the hardest thing for a team to learn. It's the kind of thing that teams like UNI or NDSU know exactly how to do. I think we can get there this season.....can we do it next week? I hope so. Congrats again to the Sycs! So fired up about this team and for what they mean to us alums and to the fans. On another note I know it doesn't mean anything really....but man I can't wait to see us ranked again this week. Predictions anyone?
 
19 or 20 if you ask me

BigBlue79 making a good point here. Although I'm sure we're all thrilled with a road conference win and a 4-1 start....if this team wants to move to the next level ( I know we're all thrilled with what they have done so far in such a short amount of time) they do need to play stronger in the 4th quarter and finish teams off. It's just part of being a championship team. It's also the hardest thing for a team to learn. It's the kind of thing that teams like UNI or NDSU know exactly how to do. I think we can get there this season.....can we do it next week? I hope so. Congrats again to the Sycs! So fired up about this team and for what they mean to us alums and to the fans. On another note I know it doesn't mean anything really....but man I can't wait to see us ranked again this week. Predictions anyone?
 
Hey state of mind..I'm confused...on the other topic thread "great effort" you insulted me for saying I like the defense because they play hard and respond when they need to...and on this thread...I say I would like to finish stronger in the 4th and you get mad at me again and ask what more do I want....I never said I was upset about the game or the win...But I do want more and that is to finish stronger in the 4th quarter...that's reasonable...
 
We absolutely need to maintain focus for all 4 quarters and finish games better; both offensively and defensively. I think there needs to be constant attention paid to pass coverage for the LBs, and more attention paid to down and distance on the corners. Our LBs are so used to coming that their mindset is all about attacking, which is great, other than when they need to be in their drops. We get pretty good pressure, but we lose the edge too much, giving the QBs too much time to ad lib and for coverage to break down.
 
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