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JS had to build a roster in a hurry, so there were guys on last years roster he ordinarily would not have offered. The players had a whole season to show they deserved (or wanted) to play in his system. JS has said time and again he intends to build a program, and its pretty obvious he will either succeed or fail on his own terms. I would hate to see us lose a player like Crawford, but as a fan I have decided to jump on the JS bandwagon. So time will tell.
 

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Hickory questioned Norman Dale when he moved to town...but everything seemed to work out when Tyreke Key, er, Jimmy Chitwood decided to stay.
 
Jason Svoboda said:
Our 1st and 2nd string centers left. Our 3rd string center that couldn't see the floor over them is still here. If there isn't at least one more, that is a missed opportunity.

I still think we potentially see several more leave especially based on the number of stones Boisvert and crew are turning over in recruiting.
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I guess you are right. I personally don't agree with rebuilding the team. I think the coach bares some responsibility if the team does not rebound or play defense. But, maybe it is the players.
 
sycamorebacker said:
I guess you are right. I personally don't agree with rebuilding the team. I think the coach bares some responsibility if the team does not rebound or play defense. But, maybe it is the players.
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the coach bears all of the responsibility of how the team plays

all coaches say they want to, will build a program

time, treasure and talent will show the results
 

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There's potential budget cuts coming and a small men's bball budget and salary pool as it is. GL had the program in the MVC semi's and finished 4th and 3rd this last two years. So if Schertz has been brought in to improve off that we're talking NCAA/NIT bids (which GL was getting close to). If JS can pull that off they'll option his book into a screenplay. It'll be a Moneyball/Billy Beane/Bill James level of hacking the system.
 
sycamorebacker said:
I guess you are right. I personally don't agree with rebuilding the team. I think the coach bares some responsibility if the team does not rebound or play defense. But, maybe it is the players.
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If the players go to practice, take in the instruction and then refuse to take the teaching to the floor or are simply not capable of doing so, you move on in today's landscape.

Based on who I believe the staff is looking at, this is going to be a multi-year process -- at least another two. I think they are looking for another impact player but will be supplementing those with some upperclassmen culture stopgap guys.
 
Jason Svoboda said:
If the players go to practice, take in the instruction and then refuse to take the teaching to the floor or are simply not capable of doing so, you move on in today's landscape.

Based on who I believe the staff is looking at, this is going to be a multi-year process -- at least another two. I think they are looking for another impact player but will be supplementing those with some upperclassmen culture stopgap guys.
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Fans are impatient. We really should give him at least 3 years You are probably right on.
 
Huh. More to come…

But you read Sycamore Pride and it’s like - well it must be a mutual thing. Said player must see the writing on the wall. I made these comments prior to Golden’s earth shattering article in the TribStar about more roster turnover. You guys paying any attention to external factor and many moving parts? I’m very curious…

Fellas - it’s a new age in college basketball. Everything you thought you knew before - throw it out the window.

I haven’t agreed with much I’ve seen from JS in Y1. Much different from 95% of the people on here who I’m convinced will believe whatever coach comes in here tells them to believe in…

But I tell you what - given the ridiculous transfer landscape we are in you could really not hope for anything else than a coach that is willing to navigate those waters. Had he sat on this current roster as other long time mid major D1 coaches will do - he would have rotted away and blown his opportunity to coach at this level. He’s not settling - you have to respect that given the NCAA in March 22’ it’s not the NCAA we grew up with.
 
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CoachShipp said:
When a coach repeatedly bemoans the talent level of his own players, it would seem that wholesale changes are to be expected. I agree with other posters who have mentioned that we face a stiff uphill challenge in enticing players to campus currently...Shertz and his boys will have to be hellacious salesmen....hoping for the best.
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To quote Remember the Titans- Attitude Reflects Leadership! Only time will tell.
 
SycamoreStateofMind said:
The is the most patient fan base in the history of man kind.

Exhibit 1A - I present you Indiana State Football.

The end.
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How true….and it begs a serious question. How many alums of D-1 institutions can say their alma mater tanked it’s football program on purpose and then blew up a winning basketball program—also on purpose—in back-to-back decades? But just be patient…..
 
Hooper said:
There's potential budget cuts coming and a small men's bball budget and salary pool as it is. GL had the program in the MVC semi's and finished 4th and 3rd this last two years. So if Schertz has been brought in to improve off that we're talking NCAA/NIT bids (which GL was getting close to). If JS can pull that off they'll option his book into a screenplay. It'll be a Moneyball/Billy Beane/Bill James level of hacking the system.
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GL has never re-surfaced with a new job. He said many times "all I have to do is make a call"; his number must have been blocked in a lot of places or he just doesn't want to work? His timing has always been subpar. Waited too long to put a decent team together, leave an inevitable dismissal, sat out a year from coaching & now is almost a forgotten entity in most quarters it appears? GL who?
 

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FanSinceArenaDays said:
GL has never re-surfaced with a new job. He said many times "all I have to do is make a call"; his number must have been blocked in a lot of places or he just doesn't want to work? His timing has always been subpar. Waited too long to put a decent team together, leave an inevitable dismissal, sat out a year from coaching & now is almost a forgotten entity in most quarters it appears? GL who?
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Everything about this post is correct. FACTS!!
 
Hooper said:
There's potential budget cuts coming and a small men's bball budget and salary pool as it is. GL had the program in the MVC semi's and finished 4th and 3rd this last two years. So if Schertz has been brought in to improve off that we're talking NCAA/NIT bids (which GL was getting close to). If JS can pull that off they'll option his book into a screenplay. It'll be a Moneyball/Billy Beane/Bill James level of hacking the system.
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So close! I'm going to tell a secret, I was close to getting a date once with Morgan Fairchild, and then another time I got close to taking out Bo Derek. I was like just 3 or 4 phone calls away from closing the deal on each one!

Finishing 3rd and 4th the last two years means absolutely nothing, it's not any different than finishing 2nd. In case you haven't heard, second place is a.k.a. as the 1st loser.

And nothing matters but CHAMPIONSHIPS, and he was lucky to get one in his first year, with a very down MVC at Arch Madness. And for the next decade, he produced nothing, and if he was still here, he still would have produced nothing. He's touted as THE GREAT ONE because of his record amount of wins, but NO ONE wants to mention his RECORD amount of LOSSES.
 
FanSinceArenaDays said:
GL has never re-surfaced with a new job. He said many times "all I have to do is make a call"; his number must have been blocked in a lot of places or he just doesn't want to work? His timing has always been subpar. Waited too long to put a decent team together, leave an inevitable dismissal, sat out a year from coaching & now is almost a forgotten entity in most quarters it appears? GL who?
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Impatient much? TONS of coaches sit out a year, two years... the Final Four, aka the NABC Annual Convention/Conference is one of the LARGEST job fairs in MBB

forgotten entity in most quarters -- no crystal ball here -- guess you got the last one at the thrift shop

have no clue if he will, won't get another job -- did see his good buddy (Steve Forbes) was tapped as the ACC CoY for 2021-22, maybe Steve will put in a good for him

odd that Forbes was ACC CoY... Wake Forest isn't always the 1st thought for ACC ball.... they must have picked up some good, better players since last season
 
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Gotta Hav said:
So close! I'm going to tell a secret, I was close to getting a date once with Morgan Fairchild, and then another time I got close to taking out Bo Derek. I was like just 3 or 4 phone calls away from closing the deal on each one!

Finishing 3rd and 4th the last two years means absolutely nothing, it's not any different than finishing 2nd. In case you haven't heard, second place is a.k.a. as the 1st loser.

And nothing matters but CHAMPIONSHIPS, and he was lucky to get one in his first year, with a very down MVC at Arch Madness. And for the next decade, he produced nothing, and if he was still here, he still would have produced nothing. He's touted as THE GREAT ONE because of his record amount of wins, but NO ONE wants to mention his RECORD amount of LOSSES.
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LOL...and while you were pipe dream'n Bo, I was on a yacht off the coast of Santorini w/ Barbara Eden and had full control of the cork to her bottle!
 
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