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SycamoreBlue3209 said:
It’s not premature to think JS is not confident in Peterson’s abilities. He was healthy for the second half of the season and we were in dire need of a PG to handle the ball and take the pressure off Coop and Henry. He never chose to give him the chance even when we had nothing to lose.

I hope this helps comprehend why I believe JS did make a judgement on Q.
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Just watched the Sullivan vs Evansville Bosse regional final. Both teams have a star player worthy of at least interest from ISU. Kid from Sullivan (Kelly) is a dead ringer for Michael Menser. Size is his only drawback. The kid from Bosse is all around talent,
 

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SycamoreBlue3209 said:
So you think he went out and signed Martin because he wants to build his roster with 4 of the 13 scholarships with 3 sophomore and 1 freshman PG’s? I don’t believe for a second he went out and got Martin with the intention of Peterson, Larry & Micah returning. At least one of the three aren’t returning…
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Don’t start talking logically and point out facts… Everyone wants to believe the reason Peterson couldn’t find the floor over one of the worst offensive basketball players in this programs history is because he was hurt and didn’t have time to develop. So just let them believe in fairytales. Don’t crush dreams here!
 
sycamorebacker said:
Why? Larry was playing almost the entire time. I don't follow your logic AT ALL. He only needed 8 players and Thomas was the guard.
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Backer, I am a big fan of what Larry brings on the defensive end and think he can develop into a better offensive contributor with three more years of eligibility. However, I can’t help you logic if you watched games this year and viewed Larry as the “offensive floor general.”

This isn’t me being an ass about the three current PG’s, but the fact is we played this year with 3 FRESHMAN PG’s and one of JS first moves was to sign Martin. I guess it’s hard for some to discuss why.
 

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SycamoreBlue3209 said:
Backer, I am a big fan of what Larry brings on the defensive end and think he can develop into a better offensive contributor with three more years of eligibility. However, I can’t help you logic if you watched games this year and viewed Larry as the “offensive floor general.”

This isn’t me being an ass about the three current PG’s, but the fact is we played this year with 3 FRESHMAN PG’s and one of JS first moves was to sign Martin. I guess it’s hard for some to discuss why.
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I see your logic on the signing. It looked to me like Coach wanted the ball in Henry's hands as the initiator. He put Larry in the corner out of the way to open the driving lanes for Henry. That was all dandy as long as Henry made the right decisions. But I disagree that he "needed" a ball handler such as Peterson. I think he thought he had what he needed on the floor.
I think Larry was under-utilized so Henry could handle the ball most of the time. We'll see if Henry can "adjust" to D1 next year, and that's what I'm going to consider as the problem.

But if we are going to talk about what this team needed then it's not necessarily the team offense. We needed more consistent shooting from outside (Neese and Hobbs and Thomas) and layups (Thomas and Larry). We needed rebounding and defense (everyone). We needed more size inside.

And, for the record, I think Larry was our most consistent player on rebounding and defense. I don't know why SSOM is so down on him. We had plenty of major problems in rebounding, fouling, defense, you name it. Besides not being able to make shots, we were beat all over the floor. And most of that was not Larry's fault. I thought he had more consistent hustle and productivity than several other players.
I won't name them but we had deficiencies in shooting by a few players and we had problems with TO's with a few players. We just need to fix that. I'm hoping some of that was the adjustment to D1. I don't know what happened to our veteran.
 
sycamorebacker said:
I see your logic on the signing. It looked to me like Coach wanted the ball in Henry's hands as the initiator. He put Larry in the corner out of the way to open the driving lanes for Henry. That was all dandy as long as Henry made the right decisions. But I disagree that he "needed" a ball handler such as Peterson. I think he thought he had what he needed on the floor.
I think Larry was under-utilized so Henry could handle the ball most of the time. We'll see if Henry can "adjust" to D1 next year, and that's what I'm going to consider as the problem.

But if we are going to talk about what this team needed then it's not necessarily the team offense. We needed more consistent shooting from outside (Neese and Hobbs and Thomas) and layups (Thomas and Larry). We needed rebounding and defense (everyone). We needed more size inside.

And, for the record, I think Larry was our most consistent player on rebounding and defense. I don't know why SSOM is so down on him. We had plenty of major problems in rebounding, fouling, defense, you name it. Besides not being able to make shots, we were beat all over the floor. And most of that was not Larry's fault. I thought he had more consistent hustle and productivity than several other players.
I won't name them but we had deficiencies in shooting by a few players and we had problems with TO's with a few players. We just need to fix that. I'm hoping some of that was the adjustment to D1. I don't know what happened to our veteran.
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What happened to our veteran was he went from being 3/4th option to a primary option. He isn't a great ball handler, not real strong creating off the dribble....although he did get better throughout the season with this, and he shot poorly from 3 point range, most likely because defenses play him like a primary offensive threat.
 
sycamorebacker said:
.... I don't know what happened to our veteran.
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Heavy minutes took it's toll...he was "ragmuffin" wearing an ISU jersey late season. JS has to find a middle ground (30-32 mpg?), where the cumulative wear doesn't impact player performance as the season winds down. For a couple week stretch, Neese was avg. OVER 40 min/gm PT because of OT. What's the word so often used today..."SUSTAINABILITY?"
 

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jben said:
Question....who is recruiting Randy Kelley???? Any D1 programs??????
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Highly doubt it. If Gotta Hav is correct about Trinity Christian (have no reason to doubt it, I just don't know) then that's probably about right. Brooks Barnhizer, standout at Lafayette Jeff who has PG size with SG skills is a soph there now. Caleb Swearingen, standout at Northview, just finished his frosh year at Olivet, which is in TCC's conference. Lincoln Hale, standout at Linton and former ISU recruit, just finished his frosh year at Indiana Wesleyan. I've really enjoyed watching Randy (plan to check him out Saturday) and think he's fantastic for Sullivan. But I don't see D1 when I watch him play. And that's not a knock on him. Just my opinion.
 
Saw a very interesting tweet stating that half the current team was going to get cut by Coach Schertz. Can't get the tweet to post so it can be readable. Not sure if it's legit. 🤔
 
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