Course when the Big
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Course when the Big
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So the rich elephant in the room is Notre Dame with a big old middle finger.
ACC and SMU now flirting with one another
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...tp&cvid=2dc99424df714fc39b7110b4be7517dd&ei=9
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I'm sticking with my view ----- first the big explosion .......Big "Ten" explodes to 20 teams.
A few years pass, maybe 5 - 7 at most. IU gets tired of finishing 17th or lower most years; Purdue feels same after its best finish is 14th. Fan bases of both schools plus several others disgusted.
Upper level schools in the league realize lower teams add nothing to the league and drain off money -- they act to eliminate schools like IU and Purdue plus couple others. League gets back to 10 -- 12 teams. Implosion !
What happens to the these discarded teams (same thing happens in SEC, etc) ? Who knows, they'll still be easy wins for the big guys. Maybe they can band together to form a lower level "Power" league or end up in the MAC.
A few years pass, maybe 5 - 7 at most. IU gets tired of finishing 17th or lower most years; Purdue feels same after its best finish is 14th. Fan bases of both schools plus several others disgusted.
Upper level schools in the league realize lower teams add nothing to the league and drain off money -- they act to eliminate schools like IU and Purdue plus couple others. League gets back to 10 -- 12 teams. Implosion !
What happens to the these discarded teams (same thing happens in SEC, etc) ? Who knows, they'll still be easy wins for the big guys. Maybe they can band together to form a lower level "Power" league or end up in the MAC.
Et tu Aztec??
SD State attempts to establish new conference...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...p&cvid=1b2f6fc060d5446e878cb99fe00afd71&ei=22
Very good recap of ALL of the greed-driven conference mergers/defections/dissolutions
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...p&cvid=1b2f6fc060d5446e878cb99fe00afd71&ei=15
Scenarios in ACC carving/halving
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...p&cvid=e1079b1fcf4a4b7c9de684bb4a3ae455&ei=10
Another good recap of the greed driving today's landscape.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...1&cvid=f1c6a61a600e47ec8c57b17b5d706e5d&ei=38
SD State attempts to establish new conference...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...p&cvid=1b2f6fc060d5446e878cb99fe00afd71&ei=22
Very good recap of ALL of the greed-driven conference mergers/defections/dissolutions
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...p&cvid=1b2f6fc060d5446e878cb99fe00afd71&ei=15
Scenarios in ACC carving/halving
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...p&cvid=e1079b1fcf4a4b7c9de684bb4a3ae455&ei=10
Another good recap of the greed driving today's landscape.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...1&cvid=f1c6a61a600e47ec8c57b17b5d706e5d&ei=38
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I think I've read that every league in the past that has ballooned up to at least 16 members has eventually had some kind of implosion. At this point the only thing keeping any of these Power conferences together is money, because none of these conferences are truly conferences anymore; they are just there to negotiate TV contracts and to add members that add value to those contracts.
I do think it's somewhat likely that eventually both the B1G and SEC will have splits where the real powerhouses split from the pretenders, so that they can keep more money to themselves. Whether that's a "Power 1" structure or a "Power 2 without the Big 12 quality schools tagging along" structure is yet to be determined.
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Predictions:
Stanford and Cal to the ACC - because that makes sense duh
Washington State and Oregon State to the Mountain West. Or maybe the Mountain West "merges" with Washington State and Oregon State and take PAC 12 name....
Stanford and Cal to the ACC - because that makes sense duh
Washington State and Oregon State to the Mountain West. Or maybe the Mountain West "merges" with Washington State and Oregon State and take PAC 12 name....
If Notre Dame wants it to happen, there's probably a decent chance it happens. The ACC needs Notre Dame more than Notre Dame needs the ACC. (Notre Dame is required to play 5 ACC schools annually in football.)
Maybe Stanford locks Notre Dame into the ACC. That is interesting.
They've been long time rivals and they surprisingly kept that contract over Michigan several years back.
The ACC name needs to be changed. Maybe the NCC for Nerd Collegiate Conference, especially after Florida State goes.
They've been long time rivals and they surprisingly kept that contract over Michigan several years back.
The ACC name needs to be changed. Maybe the NCC for Nerd Collegiate Conference, especially after Florida State goes.
Everyone should stop and ponder why the ACC is allowing that program in North Crook a vote on expansion related to football
The "irish" aren't a football program within the ACC, why in the world would the head twerps in Greensboro give two hoots what the "irish" have to say wrt ACC football?
It's IRRELEVANT!
And people wonder what the f*** is wrong with college football?
ND is required to play 5 ACC teams a year. That alone gives ND more poll than 95% of their full-time members, as the ACC doesn't want to lose that. Stanford makes sense for ND football, it gives ND an opponent they'd love to play every year and now they "only" have to play 4 true ACC teams. If Florida State or Clemson leaves the ACC. That is a huge blow to ND's schedule.Everyone should stop and ponder why the ACC is allowing that program in North Crook a vote on expansion related to football
The "irish" aren't a football program within the ACC, why in the world would the head twerps in Greensboro give two hoots what the "irish" have to say wrt ACC football?
It's IRRELEVANT!
And people wonder what the f*** is wrong with college football?
ACC schools that are good for ND - Miami, Clemson, Florida State, and potentially Stanford
ACC schools that are decent for ND - Boston College, Georgia Tech, Pitt, Virginia Tech
ACC schools that are meh for ND - Louisville, North Carolina, NC State, Syracuse, Virginia, Wake Forest
ACC schools that suck for ND - Duke and potentially Cal
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Jason - you seem to have smoked to much "irish green"...
why is it a surprise the "irish" kept the stanford contract over michigan? stanford is the easier opponent
At the time, Stanford was actually beating them more regularly. Of course, that is when Shaw had it really going there.
But yeah, both programs have trended in different directions.
Go talk to the Miami (FL) AD when the Big East was courting the "irish" he's admitted several times that the Big East is to blame for causing most of the thrash in college football -- had the Big East
AMAZING the college football world keeps kissing "irish" ass especially as that program hasn't been DOMINANT since lisping Lou "the cheater" Holtz was crawling around the sidelines
Yes but the Large Maize Weasels of the Midwest were still considered the "better" program, regardless of how poorly Hoke and Rodriguez were running that franchise
Stanford is ~10th all time in gms with the "irish" and they've only played annually/regularly since 1988
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/notre-dame/head-to-head.html
Notre Dame gets a vote on ACC expansion because they are a full member of the ACC.Everyone should stop and ponder why the ACC is allowing that program in North Crook a vote on expansion related to football
The "irish" aren't a football program within the ACC, why in the world would the head twerps in Greensboro give two hoots what the "irish" have to say wrt ACC football?
It's IRRELEVANT!
And people wonder what the f*** is wrong with college football?
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Sounds like Stanford and Cal ran into some roadblocks in the ACC meeting, so that's starting to look like that won't happen.
Iowa State's AD says the Big 12 is done expanding as they have now maxed out their TV contract and can't add more schools without diluting payments.
The MWC Commissioner said that they have targeted ORSU and Wazzu as expansion candidates. The complication is seeing what happens with Stanford and Cal. There's also been talks of a MWC / PAC merger, but it sounds like the MWC is more interested in simply poaching the PAC (as they should be).
Iowa State's AD says the Big 12 is done expanding as they have now maxed out their TV contract and can't add more schools without diluting payments.
The MWC Commissioner said that they have targeted ORSU and Wazzu as expansion candidates. The complication is seeing what happens with Stanford and Cal. There's also been talks of a MWC / PAC merger, but it sounds like the MWC is more interested in simply poaching the PAC (as they should be).
Wait a damn minute... you mean the FULLY-VESTED 'original' member of the ACC, notre fucking dame DIDN"T get their votes to pull LONG-TIME HISTORIC BLOOD FEUD rival Stanford and Cal into the ACC??
Who'd have thought that would occur???
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Looks like Cal and Stanford came up one vote shy of ACC membership.
A report is out that says Stanford has offered to join the ACC "for free for several years" meaning that they would receive no conference payouts. That's probably the most desperate offer I've ever heard in conference realignment if true. Not sure what Cal is trying to do.