Lansing Contract Situation

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If we don't have a season this winter do you all think Lansing will be brought back for the 2021-22 season? My guess would be yes, but I'm not sure if this winter would be considered a season with his contract. I would assume yes if he is still getting paid.
 

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I’m interested to see how college athletics handle contracts/transfers/bonuses/recruiting in general during this time.

but tothe question. I thinkLansing should be brought back if there is no season this upcoming year. Will he? I don’t know. Unless you have an absolute homerun hire (which there might be given the situation everyone is in) Lansing has done enough to warrant another season to earn the position.
 
TreeTop said:
Why are you so sure he wouldn't be brought back (if there's no 2020-2021 season)?

But I agree that if he isn't brought back, things would go way south way fast, with lots of players transferring.
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I'm not sure of anything that happens at Indiana State or in this world anymore.

But if you look - at how his contract situation / extension - non extension has played out then that should tell us about all we need to know... Our AD clearly has other ideas and wants to take this in a different direction.

What a better way for him to get out from under Lansing than for this season to not be played at all. Because I can tell you - if they play this season my guess is Lansing likes what he has to work with. My guess is that he would be a pretty tough man to "fire" / "non-renew" if we were to have a top 3 Mo Val finish and any sort of run in STL.

And the reason I think this will be ugly is that I don't imagine that Lansing wants to leave TH and I know that a lot of his friends/alums/donors don't want him gone - so it will be a very divided situation. I think a lot of it probably depends on contract/legal jargon that I don't understand... If they don't have a season does that still count as a year? I am not sure about any of that and I'm sure that will be part of the consideration.
 
SycamoreStateofMind said:
I'm not sure of anything that happens at Indiana State or in this world anymore.

But if you look - at how his contract situation / extension - non extension has played out then that should tell us about all we need to know... Our AD clearly has other ideas and wants to take this in a different direction.

What a better way for him to get out from under Lansing than for this season to not be played at all. Because I can tell you - if they play this season my guess is Lansing likes what he has to work with. My guess is that he would be a pretty tough man to "fire" / "non-renew" if we were to have a top 3 Mo Val finish and any sort of run in STL.

And the reason I think this will be ugly is that I don't imagine that Lansing wants to leave TH and I know that a lot of his friends/alums/donors don't want him gone - so it will be a very divided situation. I think a lot of it probably depends on contract/legal jargon that I don't understand... If they don't have a season does that still count as a year? I am not sure about any of that and I'm sure that will be part of the consideration.
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I would assume they are still paying him his salary even if there is no season . With this kind of contract wouldn't it be safe to assume that it has an expiration date instead of expiration season . So if these are correct the University could not renew after date X and move on with the new hire. Does anyone else see this a a plausible explanation of the contract?
 
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Daveinth said:
I would assume they are still paying him his salary even if there is no season . With this kind of contract wouldn't it be safe to assume that it has an expiration date instead of expiration season . So if these are correct the University could not renew after date X and move on with the new hire. Does anyone else see this a a plausible explanation of the contract?
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I would agree. I’m sure his contract specifies a date at which it expires, as opposed to saying “5 basketball seasons” or something generic like that. If he gets paid through to spring/summer of 2021 I do not see how that would not be the end of the contract.

At that point I don’t know which would worry me more, Clink negotiating a new deal or Clink hiring a new coach.
 
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Daveinth said:
I would assume they are still paying him his salary even if there is no season . With this kind of contract wouldn't it be safe to assume that it has an expiration date instead of expiration season . So if these are correct the University could not renew after date X and move on with the new hire. Does anyone else see this a a plausible explanation of the contract?
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Yes, because even with no season he is still functioning in all of his other responsibilities as a head coach. He still has to manage the kids as they are on campus, recruit, glad hand former players and donors, etc. They have a Board of Trustees meeting in early May where they announce raises and what not. Lansing was in the May 8th meeting minutes and it notated as follows:

Greg Lansing; Head Coach, Men's Basketball, Athletics-Mens Basketball; $248,478 per fiscal year; effective April 1, 2020 through March 31, 2021.

So Greg is our head coach until March 31, 2021 unless he is extended. If we don't have a season, the regular firing spree is unlikely to happen so the potential replacement pool would be pretty shallow. That said, Clink has long been rumored/linked to like Micah Shrewsberry so maybe the pool doesn't matter as he is the Associate Head Coach at Purdue.

Source: https://www.indstate.edu/sites/default/files/media/trustees/pdfs/bot-agenda-20200508_0.pdf
 
HOOPSFAN said:
Don't you mean "if they do extend"?
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IKR! 3rd in MVC last season, overall career winning record, about to have the most wins in school history, one of the winningest coaches in the entire current ISU athletic department (and better record than any Clinkscales hire not involving a pool), wins over IU, Butler, and many other P5s. All with the lowest MVC budget, lowest MVC salary, and outdated facilities. Just miserable....
 

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Hulman Center is an MVC quality arena. If you want to complain about facilities look at Valpo (yikes), Loyola, and Drake. Those arenas aren't even mid-major quality.
 
Sycamorefan96 said:
Hulman Center is an MVC quality arena. If you want to complain about facilities look at Valpo (yikes), Loyola, and Drake. Those arenas aren't even mid-major quality.
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Yeah that’s why I said “outdated.” It’s nearly 50 years old and is just now getting renovated into the 21st century.
 
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Hulman Center is an MVC quality arena. If you want to complain about facilities look at Valpo (yikes), Loyola, and Drake. Those arenas aren't even mid-major quality.
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It is now. Before the renovations I have been to Horizon league arenas that I would of taken over the Hulman Center. We should have a top 3-4 facility now.
 
Even before the renovations it was still better than the dump Purdue plays in. Some of the HL schools have nice arenas from pictures I've seen, but I've never been in them so I can't make an accurate comparison there.
 
Hooper said:
IKR! 3rd in MVC last season, overall career winning record, about to have the most wins in school history, one of the winningest coaches in the entire current ISU athletic department (and better record than any Clinkscales hire not involving a pool), wins over IU, Butler, and many other P5s. All with the lowest MVC budget, lowest MVC salary, and outdated facilities. Just miserable....
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You always seem to ignore ALL THOSE SEASONS OF LESS THAN MEDIOCRITY between 2011 & 2019 ..... hmmmm?
 

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I think Lansing deserves another season, but you all have to admit that the MVC is not very good. There's a reason that two Thursday teams won on Friday and then one of them went on to play on Sunday. And trust me it's not because we play in an 8 bid league.

The year before we had a 5 seed playing a 6 seed on Sunday. The top of our conference is weak and the bottom is really bad. My guess is that post-pandemic it gets even worse when the MVC schools don't have as much money to blow on basketball.
 
HOOPSFAN said:
You always seem to ignore ALL THOSE SEASONS OF LESS THAN MEDIOCRITY between 2011 & 2019 ..... hmmmm?
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First of all, you need to get some facts straight. Your hatred for Lansing is clouding your memory. For instance, 2013-2014 was arguable the best team Indiana State has had in the past thirty years and probably would have been a tourney team in any other year except that was also the year of WSU's super season. He also had winning seasons in the years before that too.

Second, you seem to want to ignore (or maybe you weren't old enough to remember) ALL OF THOSE SEASONS between 1980-1997. If you remember how low Indiana State basketball was in those years, a coach who routinely finishes in the top half of the league, has knocked off more than his fair share of top 25 teams/programs over the years, has a winning record and loves the school and community looks pretty good.

The grass ain't always greener on the other side.
 
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I was opposed to Lansing being hired, and I'm still not a fan. However, with that said, if the season is canceled and his contract comes to an end...and it will, in all fairness....I believe he should be given a one year contract after this one ends. If he doesn't accept the terms....then let's move forward.
 
I don't think GL is the greatest coach ever, but I think he has put together as much talent as we have ever had so I don't see how you can let him go, considering the record he has.
 
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