I just think it will be hard to find someone better qualified and does the job better than Deb does!
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I just think it will be hard to find someone better qualified and does the job better than Deb does!
I mean… Fair point!
And we don’t need another woke Prez either.
Go woke. Go broke.
It's so warm here today, It's a bit unusual to see any snowflakes on this Christmas Eve...
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Well I guess the Wisconsin La Crosse Chancellor is available! 
Updated Thu, December 28, 2023 at 10:04 AM CST·8 min read
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The University of Wisconsin System Board of Regents unanimously fired UW-La Crosse Chancellor Joe Gow during a closed-door meeting Wednesday after discovering videos posted on porn websites featuring him and his wife.
Gow, 63, and his wife, Carmen Wilson, are featured on several porn websites using "Sexy Happy Couple" as the account name, a moniker also used on at least two social media accounts.
The couple also published two books detailing their experiences in the adult film industry, under pseudonyms. Both books and the social media accounts feature photos clearly showing Gow and Wilson.
Joe Gow and his wife, Carmen Wilson, in September after the UW-La Crosse chancellor announced he would step down for a faculty role.
"In recent days, we learned of specific conduct by Dr. Gow that has subjected the university to significant reputational harm," UW System President Jay Rothman said. "His actions were abhorrent."
UW Board of Regents President Karen Walsh said Gow showed "a reckless disregard" for his role as a UW-La Crosse leader.
"We are alarmed, and disgusted, by his actions, which were wholly and undeniably inconsistent with his role as chancellor," she said.
Gow told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, part of the USA TODAY Network, that the creation of books and videos exploring consensual adult sexuality falls within his right to free speech under the First Amendment. He said he previously hid this part of his life but made a recent decision to reverse course and "be a little bit more open about these free speech issues."
"There's nothing said about the University of Wisconsin; there's nothing said about the chancellor (on the videos)," he said after the firing Wednesday. "So someone else would have to make those associations. And then someone would have to say those are problematic."
No university property or funds were used to create the books or videos, Gow said. He created the content on his own personal time and spent more on production costs than the "minimal" money the videos have earned through the websites.
Gow questioned whether the board afforded him due process because he said he wasn't given an opportunity to make his case. He said no one at the UW System nor on the UW Board of Regents contacted him ahead of the Wednesday meeting where the board met behind closed doors for just over three hours.
The statements from UW leaders Wednesday struck a different tone from earlier this year when Gow announced plans to step down at the end of the 2023-24 school year and return to the faculty as a communications professor. He is the longest serving of the current chancellors, leading the 10,000 student campus since 2007.
“This is a hallmark of excellent stewardship," UW System President Jay Rothman said in an August statement. "He has provided a steady hand through challenging times and met the moment when we needed him."
Gow's 2006 contract says little about the termination process. The six pages spell out his separate appointment as a tenured faculty member and explains how his new salary would be determined if he were to resign or be terminated from the chancellorship. The document also notes he would have received six months' notice of termination had he not been granted tenure.
The contract also includes these key lines: "The Chancellor is encouraged to engage in outside activities that contribute to the Chancellor's professional advancement or benefit the University. The Chancellor may not engage in any activity that may be adverse to, or competitive or inconsistent with the interests of the University of Wisconsin System."
Rothman said he placed Gow on paid administrative leave as he transitions into his faculty role. The UW System president, however, has also filed a complaint with the new interim chancellor, UW-La Crosse Provost Betsy Morgan, asking for Gow's tenured faculty status to be reviewed. Rothman also said he has engaged an outside law firm to conduct a full investigation.
Wilson chaired the search committee that selected Gow to lead UW-La Crosse. She was Gow's chief of staff in the chancellor's office from 2008 to 2011. She then led UW-Rock County from 2011 to 2016.
The two married in 2014. Now as Gow's spouse, Wilson serves as an "associate to the chancellor" under the terms of his contract. The formal appointment is unpaid and complements the chancellor's public-facing role leading the university.
Gow and Wilson have six videos on OnlyFans that feature adult film stars, according to descriptions of the videos. They also appear on at least two other porn websites, PornHub and XHamster. Some videos have more than 200,000 views. All videos were posted in the last two months.
They also appear on a YouTube channel called "Sexy Healthy Cooking." It shows nine videos of the couple cooking various vegan dishes with adult film stars.
The couple appears to have published two books together under the names Geri and Jay Hart. According to the author bio on Amazon, the names are pseudonyms for "a married woman and man who serve in executive positions at two well-known organizations in the U.S.” An author photo shows Gow and Wilson.
The books don't reference La Crosse, Wisconsin, or any work for a university. But they do allude to the couple's status in the community, and how they have grappled with the tension they felt between the expectations of their “establishment” careers and their desires to be more open about their sex lives.
“You see, we couldn’t be more entrenched in the local establishment,” they wrote in “Monogamy with Benefits: How Porn Enriches Our Relationship,” published in 2015. “Not only do we serve as executives at two of the better-known organizations in the city where we live, but we are also highly active in charitable and civic activities. We hold seats on non-profit boards, and we’re fixtures at a very traditional ‘downtown’ public service club. All this has made us rather visible public figures in our city. We’re sometimes quoted in the newspapers, and people approach us from time to time to say they’ve seen us on last night’s television news. In fact, you can even go on the web and find photographs of us smiling alongside ultra-reputable current and former national and state political leaders.”
The couple noted they were “fairly certain a scandal would ensue if our peers were to know about what we’ve been doing.”
“We think our sex is beautiful and have no qualms at all about other people watching us make love. But our establishment colleagues likely would be shocked to watch us complete the full carnal process – particularly with professional porn stars – and we’re fairly certain we’d be shunned in our community. Our careers likely would be ruined, and what’s worse is that the lives of our families and friends also could be impacted significantly, and not in a positive way. So, as much as we’d like to be as honest with everyone else as we’ve been with ourselves about our sexuality, we feel compelled to keep our unconventional lifestyle hidden.”
That book ends with the couple’s first experience being in a “professionally produced sex video” just before they got married. Their 2018 book, “Married with Benefits: Our Real-life Adult Industry Adventures,” describes additional experiences creating pornographic videos and collaborating with other adult performers.
University of Wisconsin-La Crosse chancellor fired for appearing in porn videos
Kelly Meyerhofer and Rory Linnane, USA TODAY NETWORKUpdated Thu, December 28, 2023 at 10:04 AM CST·8 min read
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The University of Wisconsin System Board of Regents unanimously fired UW-La Crosse Chancellor Joe Gow during a closed-door meeting Wednesday after discovering videos posted on porn websites featuring him and his wife.
Gow, 63, and his wife, Carmen Wilson, are featured on several porn websites using "Sexy Happy Couple" as the account name, a moniker also used on at least two social media accounts.
The couple also published two books detailing their experiences in the adult film industry, under pseudonyms. Both books and the social media accounts feature photos clearly showing Gow and Wilson.
Joe Gow and his wife, Carmen Wilson, in September after the UW-La Crosse chancellor announced he would step down for a faculty role.
"In recent days, we learned of specific conduct by Dr. Gow that has subjected the university to significant reputational harm," UW System President Jay Rothman said. "His actions were abhorrent."
UW Board of Regents President Karen Walsh said Gow showed "a reckless disregard" for his role as a UW-La Crosse leader.
"We are alarmed, and disgusted, by his actions, which were wholly and undeniably inconsistent with his role as chancellor," she said.
Gow told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, part of the USA TODAY Network, that the creation of books and videos exploring consensual adult sexuality falls within his right to free speech under the First Amendment. He said he previously hid this part of his life but made a recent decision to reverse course and "be a little bit more open about these free speech issues."
"There's nothing said about the University of Wisconsin; there's nothing said about the chancellor (on the videos)," he said after the firing Wednesday. "So someone else would have to make those associations. And then someone would have to say those are problematic."
No university property or funds were used to create the books or videos, Gow said. He created the content on his own personal time and spent more on production costs than the "minimal" money the videos have earned through the websites.
Gow questioned whether the board afforded him due process because he said he wasn't given an opportunity to make his case. He said no one at the UW System nor on the UW Board of Regents contacted him ahead of the Wednesday meeting where the board met behind closed doors for just over three hours.
The statements from UW leaders Wednesday struck a different tone from earlier this year when Gow announced plans to step down at the end of the 2023-24 school year and return to the faculty as a communications professor. He is the longest serving of the current chancellors, leading the 10,000 student campus since 2007.
“This is a hallmark of excellent stewardship," UW System President Jay Rothman said in an August statement. "He has provided a steady hand through challenging times and met the moment when we needed him."
Gow's 2006 contract says little about the termination process. The six pages spell out his separate appointment as a tenured faculty member and explains how his new salary would be determined if he were to resign or be terminated from the chancellorship. The document also notes he would have received six months' notice of termination had he not been granted tenure.
The contract also includes these key lines: "The Chancellor is encouraged to engage in outside activities that contribute to the Chancellor's professional advancement or benefit the University. The Chancellor may not engage in any activity that may be adverse to, or competitive or inconsistent with the interests of the University of Wisconsin System."
Rothman said he placed Gow on paid administrative leave as he transitions into his faculty role. The UW System president, however, has also filed a complaint with the new interim chancellor, UW-La Crosse Provost Betsy Morgan, asking for Gow's tenured faculty status to be reviewed. Rothman also said he has engaged an outside law firm to conduct a full investigation.
Wilson chaired the search committee that selected Gow to lead UW-La Crosse. She was Gow's chief of staff in the chancellor's office from 2008 to 2011. She then led UW-Rock County from 2011 to 2016.
The two married in 2014. Now as Gow's spouse, Wilson serves as an "associate to the chancellor" under the terms of his contract. The formal appointment is unpaid and complements the chancellor's public-facing role leading the university.
Gow, Wilson used pseudonyms to avoid 'negative repercussions'
The couple's account on X, formerly Twitter, hinted at their hobby: "The Passionate plant-powered couple cooking, conversing, and shooting with top adult video stars. Visit our LoyalFans and OnlyFans sites for fully explicit scenes!"Gow and Wilson have six videos on OnlyFans that feature adult film stars, according to descriptions of the videos. They also appear on at least two other porn websites, PornHub and XHamster. Some videos have more than 200,000 views. All videos were posted in the last two months.
They also appear on a YouTube channel called "Sexy Healthy Cooking." It shows nine videos of the couple cooking various vegan dishes with adult film stars.
The couple appears to have published two books together under the names Geri and Jay Hart. According to the author bio on Amazon, the names are pseudonyms for "a married woman and man who serve in executive positions at two well-known organizations in the U.S.” An author photo shows Gow and Wilson.
The books don't reference La Crosse, Wisconsin, or any work for a university. But they do allude to the couple's status in the community, and how they have grappled with the tension they felt between the expectations of their “establishment” careers and their desires to be more open about their sex lives.
“You see, we couldn’t be more entrenched in the local establishment,” they wrote in “Monogamy with Benefits: How Porn Enriches Our Relationship,” published in 2015. “Not only do we serve as executives at two of the better-known organizations in the city where we live, but we are also highly active in charitable and civic activities. We hold seats on non-profit boards, and we’re fixtures at a very traditional ‘downtown’ public service club. All this has made us rather visible public figures in our city. We’re sometimes quoted in the newspapers, and people approach us from time to time to say they’ve seen us on last night’s television news. In fact, you can even go on the web and find photographs of us smiling alongside ultra-reputable current and former national and state political leaders.”
The couple noted they were “fairly certain a scandal would ensue if our peers were to know about what we’ve been doing.”
“We think our sex is beautiful and have no qualms at all about other people watching us make love. But our establishment colleagues likely would be shocked to watch us complete the full carnal process – particularly with professional porn stars – and we’re fairly certain we’d be shunned in our community. Our careers likely would be ruined, and what’s worse is that the lives of our families and friends also could be impacted significantly, and not in a positive way. So, as much as we’d like to be as honest with everyone else as we’ve been with ourselves about our sexuality, we feel compelled to keep our unconventional lifestyle hidden.”
That book ends with the couple’s first experience being in a “professionally produced sex video” just before they got married. Their 2018 book, “Married with Benefits: Our Real-life Adult Industry Adventures,” describes additional experiences creating pornographic videos and collaborating with other adult performers.
It doesn't, however having insider knowledge to the school and the local area politics is pretty invaluable especially when you pair that with the success he was able to have at Utah Tech. Leading them from Dixie State University to Utah Tech while growing enrollment is impressive. Even though we're not changing names, we could definitely use a rebranding so his experience there is a big bonus for me.
Anecdotal, but Utah Tech has been recruiting here in Vegas and you can find their advertising in the more affluent areas like Summerlin and Henderson. If he is hired, I hope he brings that energy and attacks recruiting Carmel, Fishers and other high performing donut counties and lowers the reliance on kids from "Da Region" because that simply has not paid off for us.
bent20
The Odum Level
I'm not opposed to the Utah Tech guy. It's just a reaction to so many posts here over the years when we have an opening of some kind. For every Mitch Hannahs, we seem to have a couple Curt Mallorys.
Yep, that's fair.
I will say that from having inside knowledge of the last Presidential search that people involved were told "not to find another Dan Bradley" which would have led to Provost Lincari getting selected and he has apparently been knocking it out of the park at Austin Peay. Maybe we needed another Dan Bradley?
Would be nice if people would come to the table and just evaluate the candidates resumes and their vision for the job instead of hiring to look inclusive or some bullshit.
Maybe I am missing something here - Curt Mallory isn’t an Indiana State grad? He didn’t coach here? So why does his name apply to this logic? I don’t get that at all - your entire premise was we don’t need someone with Indiana State ties which is fine to have that opinion but then to say “for every Mitch Hannah’s we have a couple Curt Mallory’s” I don’t understand that logic?
* Maybe Mallory had ISU ties I don’t know about. I’m not that knowledgeable on his past so could be?
Edit: I went back and looked should have done that first, you said ISU OR INDIANA connection. So Mallory is in reference to Indiana ties. Got it.
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Wtf did that mean?
PD INDY ALUM
The Sycamore Level
Bradley was a fine president. He represented the University and Terre Haute quite well. ISU was in expansion mode with enrollment, curriculum, etc. He was always approachable to students, faculty and the citizens of Terre Haute. Hope our next president is exactly like him.
Agree. He’s still pretty involved in the community to this day. Generally speaking I think he’s still pretty liberal and wish we could get away from that - probably not possible.
bent20
The Odum Level
I would hope any university president would take the approach Mitch Daniels did while at Purdue and leave politics out of the job.
Q&A: Mitch Daniels on breaking political silence, one-party rule in Indiana, and Purdue
With a new book out, Mitch Daniels talks politics, the state of society, and whether he would ever consider running for office again.
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I would hope any university president would take the approach Mitch Daniels did while at Purdue and leave politics out of the job.
Q&A: Mitch Daniels on breaking political silence, one-party rule in Indiana, and Purdue
With a new book out, Mitch Daniels talks politics, the state of society, and whether he would ever consider running for office again.www.indystar.com
That hasn’t been the case most places unfortunately… Harvard being the most public recent example.
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I took it to mean "no white males", but I could be misreading the quote.
No clue but it's one of those ambiguous statements where it can unlock whatever the individual takes it in to mean and then frame their biases around it. It's dangerous language and framing which makes people lose focus on hiring the best candidate IMO.
sycamore tuff
The Wade Level
At a ballgame ( I can't mention which sport) on the east side of town, I noticed some ushers giving the students a hard time. I spoke to him about it. He sent word to the ushers to leave the students alone. It seems he had some sense.
I think most of us would agree that Dan Bradley did a pretty fair job as president. A lot would say he did a good job. I don’t think there are very many that would say he did a bad job.
I’m sure there were things he did that weren’t popular, or didn’t work out. But I believe his overall work should be considered a success!
So with that in mind, you would think the search committee would have been looking for someone who could continue building on that success.........a framework if you will.
I believe ISU has an identity of being conservative in it’s operations. Simply because of the nature of our alums, the community, and the size of our endowment.........essentially another part of our framework.
Our search committee and BOT made a huge mistake in selecting Deborah Curtis. It was not a time to make a drastic change just to make a change,
Some changes are necessary, but we didn’t need to try and reinvent the wheel.
Hopefully going forward everyone has learned a valuable lesson. We cannot afford another failure.