If your running back is busting 50+ yard runs on multiple occassions, that notion is difficult to convert to reality.
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[September 24, 2011] Youngstown State (2-1) at Indiana State (2-1)
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If your running back is busting 50+ yard runs on multiple occassions, that notion is difficult to convert to reality.
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bent20
The Odum Level
I feel like I'm in a time warp and listening to Colt fans eight years ago as they debate whether or not quick strikes by Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison are good or bad for the team.
That's your strategy and I respect that but I think coach miles strategy was,team with the most points wins the game. What do you want shakir to do? Take a knee?
It is really just a silly thought because no matter who the coach is, he wants to put up points. You NEED touchdowns to win games and they aren't going to appear out of nowhere. Take them where you can get them. And I played under a really old school coach...we ran the wing T for my freshmen year and he always told me, "you get a shot take it..." it's not a new school vs old school type thinking, it's just different views on the game...there isn't Just one offensive way to win a game... hell there r hundreds
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SycamoreFan317
The Renn Level
They were bad for the team as the defense was not strong enough, that is why they had to go to a more control offense. If you have a strong defense then quick scores are ok, but if you don't chances are you will be in a shoot out.
I don't get this line of thinking. How do you even control something, when you're scoring 60 yard TD's... on a RUNNING play. It's not like ISU was out there throwing 40+ yard bombs all day.
Did you want Bell to fall down after 25 yards so they could run some more plays?
I always thought the point of football is to put up points. If you want to run the ball, fine, but you're running the ball with the goal of putting up points. And if your RB happens to average over 10 yards a carry, well then your defense just needs to go out there and perform.
You can't hide a defense in football. They have to be able to perform.
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SycamoreFan317
The Renn Level
Of course not, but not all running plays are designed to go for touchdowns. Sometimes fluke things happen.
SycamoreFan317
The Renn Level
You responded to a statement about the Colts and Manning to Harrison eight years ago. Not about today.
Given your previous posts in the thread, I don't think your philosophy differs between contexts.
SycamoreFan317
The Renn Level
The Colts started to hide their defense by going to a more ball control offense and not trying to score in 45 seconds and putting their defense back on the field. You hide a defense by controlling the line of scrimmage and driving the ball down the field scoring something, hopefully a touchdown. You take up 6-8 minutes and it puts pressure on your opponent to score something. Now they won't have time to run 90 plays.
bent20
The Odum Level
Have you been watching the same Colts I have in recent years? They have a horrible Oline, can't run the ball consistently and frequently struggle with three and outs, especially with all the injuries they've had in recent years. I don't want to get into a Colts debate, but I disagree. The Colts have regressed, but Manning still gets it done with his skill and knowledge of the game. Ask him or Caldwell if they'd take a score on one or two plays and I guarantee they say "yes." They rarely get to now because they don't have the consistent deep threat and teams play the pass against them on nearly every down. If anything, they were more of a ball control team back in the days of Edgerrin James because of his slow, patient running style. They still got themselves into shootouts though because their defense was so bad.
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bent20
The Odum Level
And you don't hide your defense by trying to grind the clock. You put up whatever points you can and make the other team match you. Today, YSU almost did, but they threw a pick late and it cost them. That's what you hope for. If we didn't have all of those points racked up they would have easily outscored us in this game.
Our defense has to play better. Has to make more stops. I think we can all agree on that. They make more stops and that means more offensive possession, more offensive plays, fewer defensive plays.
Our defense has to play better. Has to make more stops. I think we can all agree on that. They make more stops and that means more offensive possession, more offensive plays, fewer defensive plays.
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Plus one. It all starts at the corner position today IMO. I was seeing some mental errors by our corners (bad angles, footplacement, down and distance mistakes on press or backoff coverage) which caused our bane of existence to show up (short passing game)
SycamoreFan317
The Renn Level
Grind the clock and SCORE, not just grind.
bent20
The Odum Level
The misdirection plays have been killing us, too. Interesting stat. They averaged five yards per carry and per pass.
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Corner is the problem there. MUST MAINTAIN CONTAINMENT.
hahahahahaha so true
TH_Sycamore12
The Captain Level
What they're saying in Penguin Land...
http://ysupenguins.com/forum/index.php/topic,6496.0.html
http://ysupenguins.com/forum/index.php/topic,6496.0.html
It is amazing how you can boatrace someone in the first half take your foot off the pedal and suddenly we are some sort of "joke" of an opponent.